***Official*** Chicago Bears Training Camp Thread!!! (Preamble to the Domination!) (FTO)
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Right he got reps. It’s not just about passing. CW has a big problem getting the cadence right.
Stroud played two series in his very first preseason game, which equaled about half a quarter. In his second preseason game as a rookie, he played an entire half, which gave him four series in total. Then, in his final preseason game of 2023, Stroud played just one series
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This is again where your bias shows. You cant judge the Bates trade as he hasnt played yet so bringing it up is silly.
Trading Quan yielded Dexter, Sewell, and Edmunds with the money we saved trading him. So not sure how getting 2 starters for the price of 1 isnt a win.
Quinn didnt even play last year and is effecfively retired so getting 4 years of Scott for basically a dude out of the league is a win.
Mack and his 27m cap hit or Brisker for dirt cheap? I take Brisker especially when keeping Mack likely causes us to lose the No 1 pick.
The Young and Sweat trades are slam dunk wins for us.
So the only clearly bad trade was Claypool.
So not sure how collectively that is nothing to write home about.
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Bears fans always question these things.
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My point was it doesnt have to be spread across 3 games. There is also the case of Herbert who has never played a preseason snap and was a stud his rookie year.
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This is not correct. From all reports, Waldron is a pretty quiet guy. Because he knows offense doesn't mean he can be a head coach
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Wasn't the last successful Bears HC a pretty quiet guy?
Boy you're really stretching to fight for Flus, acting like he's your first love.
What is it really, are you afraid if the Bears get rid of Flus they may actually go all the way towards becoming a modern football team?
You can't actually think he's been good at the job.
If Lovie could be a HC then Waldron could be a HC no matter what kind of shade you want to throw his way.
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Because asking for a head coach to be fired after Caleb's rookie season is moronic and the same cycle repeated prior. Poles isn't going to do it.
And it has nothing to do with love for Flus. Poles chose Flus so maybe learn to deal with it
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Hopefully the bears follow the same mindset Saturday
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True. The only one I think they fucked up and didn't maximize value was fields but I was also relieved to be done with the headache bears fans made that into
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Yeah. At this point I think it's fair to ask whether the offensive line injury rates are higher than "the norm", if there is such a thing, and whether there are organizational causes.
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I was obviously very loud in advocating for the haul but one of the reasons why is because I knew that Eberflus would be on shaky grounds heading into this season.
This season is a win now season for Eberflus - believe it or not, it's pretty freaking clear to me. Any struggles from Caleb, from the OL or from the defense early on will get the fan base, media and eventually the locker room turning on him so swiftly.
The team is ready to win but this guy is a bottom tier HC. Poles needs to thread a needle and have his HC in win now mode and his rookie QB develop. It's all sunshine and rainbows right now because they're high off of the preseason hype but when adversity hits, things will fall at the HC's feet.
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Flus isn't getting fired unless the team wins like 6 games or less which feels very unlikely. Things would have to fall off the rails for him to be gone this year. He got a 2 year leash when they committed to him with the rookie qb.
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He won't be fired.
If you listen to Poles talk about breaking the cycle, its not going to happen.
If Poles was going to fire him, he would have in the off-season, he did not. Hes riding with Flus and he's made that clear
It doesn't matter what the fans want, or the media.
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Breathtaking... It's been a hell of a 2 years for the guy. I take back all my unkind words.
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Eberflus needs to show that he's a Super Bowl winning HC. Continuity with mediocrity isn't a good combination.
They can achieve continuity with Caleb by keeping Waldron and hiring say Vrabel or if you just hire an offensive coordinator that's from the same tree as Waldron.
There's some really interesting things to watch this season outside of the Bears:
-how Waldron meshes with Eberflus vs Carroll, Carroll is a legit, SB winning HC and if Waldron struggles here, it reflects poorly on Eberflus/Poles
-how Fields meshes with Arthur Smith & Tomlin - Fields is a massively talented player IMO and if he thrives in Pittsburgh after his run here, that reflects poorly on Poles/Eberflus
-how Getsy meshes with the Raiders - he's got good weapons and an adequate game manager in Minshew and a defensive HC - if he looks good it reflects poorly on Fields, Eberflus and Poles
There might just be something about the coaching philosophy of these Tampa 2 defensive head coaches that doesn't facilitate philosophy of these Tampa 2 defensive head coaches that creates an environment that makes offensive football not really develop. We watched it for how long with Lovie?
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I don't think you can blame the organization for injuries; it's football, and injuries happen. However, going into the season, they needed to upgrade the IOL. They replaced Whitehair and Patrick, with Shelton and Bates. I think it's an upgrade, but we won't know until the season starts. With the availability history of Jenkins and Davis, The organization should have added another interior lineman to protect themselves. Maybe the answer can be found between Carter, Murray, Carvin, and the others; but if the organization really believes they have enough depth to protect Williams, why are they afraid to have him play in a pre-season game?
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Wait......Andrew Billings beat G.Dexter in a race 2 out of 3 times?!
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