***Official*** Chicago Bears Training Camp Thread!!! (Preamble to the Domination!) (FTO)

[Aquineas]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815923089068470451

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815932627498541379

I love Rich Eisen! Almost makes me feel guilty about hating Michigan lol.

 

[dabears70]

 

[gallagher]

I love Rich Eisen! Almost makes me feel guilty about hating Michigan lol.

I love Rich Eisen. Go Blue!!!

 

[Bearly]

Bears training camp observations: Defense has 'gut check' vs. Caleb Williams in two-minute drill

Caleb Williams and the Bears’ offense were on the cusp of a game-winning drive Tuesday until the defense flipped the script.

www.nbcsportschicago.com

I thought this was a good write up from today.

Interesting comment right at the end made by Billings about the Center competition - 2 different body types with one guy being quick and the other being really strong.

Having a QB like CW should also improve the D. He's still testing boundaries and getting used to his catchers but this should have the DBs and backers better prepared for game one. DL will also need to be more diligent in their duties against Caleb. Something sharpens something may actually happen here.

 

[Aquineas]

Lol Wright is "about that action boss"

 

[UChiLAbear]

They better not. There’s no reason for averaging less than 250 yds and a td or two a game.

This is actually a scheme thing. A strong C holds. They set out, put a hat on a dude, and hold.

The fast ones open up more options in the RO run game. They are to hit, hold the block for maybe a beat or so, shed and open.

In a perfect world, you get a C that is strong and fast. Fast gives you more options in the run game. Strong is better for a QB.


You’re not wrong. The problem is that a lot of people only watched his last season at USC where he was playing hero ball. It’s the only rational explanation I can see for any of the narratives that he is worse than Daniels or is a cowboy. Watch him at Oklahoma just shred defenses. That ball is fast and lethal.

My fear is that he will tuck and run or go cowboy due to last season lingering. I want him to be a pocket passer with less than a hundred rushing yards on the season.

Good post overall...but.....lol....I think he won't tuck & run much. From watching highlights it appears to me CW moves in the pocket to buy time and search for an open receiver, before deciding to take off. He' going to have more than a hundred yards rushing just from athletic ability alone. Probably more near 500 imo.......but I get your point. You want him in the pocket passing downfield. I think we won't have to worry about that.

 

[Heidenlarm]

Easy to rank top 8 in my opinion:

1)Payton

2)Sayers

next tier:
Forte/Anderson (in that order likely)

next tier:
Jones/Montgomery (in that order likely)

next tier:
Howard/ATrain (in that order likely)

I wonder where Gallimore would have stacked up if he hadn't passed.

 

[hebs]

I wonder where Gallimore would have stacked up if he hadn't passed.

Willie the Wisp! I was wondering if anyone else would mention him.

 

[Moses Moreno]

They better not. There’s no reason for averaging less than 250 yds and a td or two a game.

This is actually a scheme thing. A strong C holds. They set out, put a hat on a dude, and hold.

The fast ones open up more options in the RO run game. They are to hit, hold the block for maybe a beat or so, shed and open.

In a perfect world, you get a C that is strong and fast. Fast gives you more options in the run game. Strong is better for a QB.


You’re not wrong. The problem is that a lot of people only watched his last season at USC where he was playing hero ball. It’s the only rational explanation I can see for any of the narratives that he is worse than Daniels or is a cowboy. Watch him at Oklahoma just shred defenses. That ball is fast and lethal.

My fear is that he will tuck and run or go cowboy due to last season lingering. I want him to be a pocket passer with less than a hundred rushing yards on the season.

I have doubts that the stats are going to be gaudy just because Flus is a defensive, ball control focused HC with a defense that's actually good now - but with the good defense and conservative game planning, you also get the sense that they're not going to put too much on Caleb's plate in order to make him try and play in a style that brings out that cowboy play style.

The talent levels of his skill position group is absurd and he was pretty good at using RBs in the passing game in college so I expect him to play in a style close to Rodgers. Rodgers would routinely get 300+ yards rushing just off layup first downs when the play got broken down. I doubt we'll see Caleb overly reckless (my biggest concern of his coming out).

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I have doubts that the stats are going to be gaudy just because Flus is a defensive, ball control focused HC with a defense that's actually good now - but with the good defense and conservative game planning, you also get the sense that they're not going to put too much on Caleb's plate in order to make him try and play in a style that brings out that cowboy play style.

The talent levels of his skill position group is absurd and he was pretty good at using RBs in the passing game in college so I expect him to play in a style close to Rodgers. Rodgers would routinely get 300+ yards rushing just off layup first downs when the play got broken down. I doubt we'll see Caleb overly reckless (my biggest concern of his coming out).

Is Washington still coming up with the godfather offer to get Kingsbury his qb? The cards are all aligning! Bears will bring fields back next year with a stacked roster!

 

[Moses Moreno]

Is Washington still coming up with the godfather offer to get Kingsbury his qb? The cards are all aligning! Bears will bring fields back next year with a stacked roster!

Poles picked his guy and made it clear they weren't going to trade the pick.

What I wanted to happen didn't happen, move on ya fuckin nerd.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Poles picked his guy and made it clear they weren't going to trade the pick.

What I wanted to happen didn't happen, move on ya fuckin nerd.

Lol that was my last jab. I hadn't seen you in a while

 

[Bearly]

I have doubts that the stats are going to be gaudy just because Flus is a defensive, ball control focused HC with a defense that's actually good now - but with the good defense and conservative game planning, you also get the sense that they're not going to put too much on Caleb's plate in order to make him try and play in a style that brings out that cowboy play style.

The talent levels of his skill position group is absurd and he was pretty good at using RBs in the passing game in college so I expect him to play in a style close to Rodgers. Rodgers would routinely get 300+ yards rushing just off layup first downs when the play got broken down. I doubt we'll see Caleb overly reckless (my biggest concern of his coming out).

I believe it will become situational at certain points in games but D's like to play with leads. He's coach D on a team with Andrew Luck and watched Mahomes eat his lunch in the playoffs. He's also been a passing game coordinator.

 

[Moses Moreno]

Lol that was my last jab. I hadn't seen you in a while

Nothin worth chatting about! Hopefully we can avoid injuries in the playoffs and fuck Tennessee up.

 

[Moses Moreno]

I believe it will become situational at certain points in games but D's like to play with leads. He's coach D on a team with Andrew Luck and watched Mahomes eat his lunch in the playoffs. He's also been a passing game coordinator.

They're gonna force turnovers - the back 7 of the defense is no joke and they didn't draft Taylor for no reason. Field position is going to be important.

My point being - I just don't see Caleb being overly wild. There's too much talent on the offensive side of the ball to help him out and schematically Eberflus is going to want him to play a style that emphasizes ball control. He'll be able to pick and choose when he wants to take risks vs having the style he played last year that relied on him playing outside of structure (because with USCs weapons and offensive line there was no structure).

 

[iueyedoc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815722838487175240

How will the bears ever afford him?? What happened to siglers thread @BaBaBlacksheep? I was going to post this there

Edit: maybe he didn't make a thread. @iueyedoc just posted his tweet here.

I think they could cut Keenan Allen and save $18M. Close to enough to sign Ngakoue according to @JordanSigler

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Posted already? I went back like 7 pages and then was like "FUCK IT". Pretty enough to look at again even if it was already posted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815125665240281319

Man that’s some nice placement there.

 

[Kurtosis]

I think they could cut Keenan Allen and save $18M. Close to enough to sign Ngakoue according to @JordanSigler

When he’s not trolling he’s giving us the scoop on how signings will affect the cap. Truly a multi-dimensional poster.

 

[hebs]

 

[dentfan]

They're gonna force turnovers - the back 7 of the defense is no joke and they didn't draft Taylor for no reason. Field position is going to be important.

My point being - I just don't see Caleb being overly wild. There's too much talent on the offensive side of the ball to help him out and schematically Eberflus is going to want him to play a style that emphasizes ball control. He'll be able to pick and choose when he wants to take risks vs having the style he played last year that relied on him playing outside of structure (because with USCs weapons and offensive line there was no structure).

I absolutely agree with your assessment. The only rub is that it flies in the face of the cowboy narrative from his last year at USC.

Everything I’m seeing them do at camp is reinforcing the fact they want him to be a pocket passer distributing the ball. If he picks up gimme yards like that douche Rogers did, fine. I don’t want to see him rushing for anything.