Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[Myk]

The fact that a running back is being considered in the top 5 is compounded by how he ran all over a poor conference full of guys who won't be playing in the NFL. What's more is that he's not particularly big and not particularly explosive either. What's more than that is when you look at all the top 10 RB draft picks in the last 10 years, none have really translated to team success for the team that drafted the guy.

Trading up for that could end easily be a big disaster, especially when you're a team that's struggled to build the trenches. For as much work as we did there, all you need is another Billings injury and one to Thuney or Dalman and you're in a bad way yet again. For christ's sake, #trenches

Your 3rd point is where you lost me.
To me, if you're a positional value picker your opinion only matters when it's a position you value. For any other position you will always try to find a reason to say no.
I've watched the Bears make up for not having offense (QBs, WRs, and oline) by having a good RB often. What other teams have done with the position doesn't matter. Plus if we have fixed the oline, we have WRs, we have a QB so if a RB falls to us it makes sense that our situation is not the same as other teams who weren't ready.

And the real kicker is I agree about not trading up and focusing on the trenches. Even when I took Jeanty at 10 that was the last I saw anyone for oline that didn't require a lot of scrolling (reaches). He had better be exceptional at running, receiving and blocking if getting him means no real oline options.

 

[bufordht]

You have two choices and only these two, which one do you choose?

Trade up for Jeanty giving up one of our 2nd rounders and a 2026 3rd?

Taking Tyler Warren or C.Loveland at #10?

Take the TE

 

[Enasic]

Poles record on draft day pick moves - In three drafts, he's moved up a grand total of once, the small move from 61 to 55 for Stevenson. He's had one lateral pick swap (a 5th {Booker} last year for this year's 4th). And he moved down seven times. So, based on his past trend, Poles is more likely to move down than up. However, he's far more likely to just stay where he is and take who's there...

Based on history yes, he’s more likely to trade down than up. We’ll see what happens

 

[dabears70]

Good convo between Waddle, Silvy and Cronin.

 

[Antobears]

I think most people don’t hate him. It’s really not about that at all.

Ah more about pick value/trading away picks than the player as such. Fair enough. Looks pretty good though.

 

[DefNextYear]

Daigle: Final 2025 NFL Mock Draft | Establish The Run

establishtherun.com

Here's another mock of some guy who hit like some "best mock" metrics in the past. I skimmed it, and there are a couple wild picks.

 

[Myk]

This is a very dramatic take. The only one of those moves that really “set the bears back” was Claypool. Davis was a dud but hardly set them back…Bates cost a 5th and is currently their backup C who could also play OG, assuming he’s healthy.

And Claypool wasn't even a love affair it was a bandaid because Poles ignored the offense for his 2nd year QB.

You have two choices and only these two, which one do you choose?

Trade up for Jeanty giving up one of our 2nd rounders and a 2026 3rd?

Taking Tyler Warren or C.Loveland at #10?

I certainly wouldn't over pay to move up for anyone we would draft so a trade up with your prices isn't happening.
And it's most likely not happening with anyone in this draft because that player isn't there.
It has to be a bidding war to cause an over pay.

I'm just checking in on the draft now. Why all the jeanty hate folks? Looks like he has great balance, very quick feet and explosive acceleration. That's my impression based only on highlights only. Was he that much less impressive in games?

The Bears drafted Enis and Benson. Bears fans are still butt hurt about it so we can never draft another high RB again.

 

[msadows]

You have two choices and only these two, which one do you choose?

Trade up for Jeanty giving up one of our 2nd rounders and a 2026 3rd?

Taking Tyler Warren or C.Loveland at #10?

Let time run out and forfeit the pick vikings style

 

[GoDJtop10]

maybe that guy? i dunno

im not on the list, so it seems a bid skewed

Thanks!

 

[Antobears]

And Claypool wasn't even a love affair it was a bandaid because Poles ignored the offense for his 2nd year QB.





I certainly wouldn't over pay to move up for anyone we would draft so a trade up with your prices isn't happening.
And it's most likely not happening with anyone in this draft because that player isn't there.
It has to be a bidding war to cause an over pay.





The Bears drafted Enis and Benson. Bears fans are still butt hurt about it so we can never draft another high RB again.

I remember Benson alright. Dumping thomas jones. Good times lol! Whatever about poles ben johnson deserves some trust and if he wants jeanty I'm not going to complain. Caleb was trying to play hero ball too much last year. Let the rb carry the load.

 

[GoDJtop10]

Yes. It was posted in this thread by @DefNextYear

Thanks!

 

[thenewguy]

Poles record on draft day pick moves - In three drafts, he's moved up a grand total of once, the small move from 61 to 55 for Stevenson. He's had one lateral pick swap (a 5th {Booker} last year for this year's 4th). And he moved down seven times. So, based on his past trend, Poles is more likely to move down than up. However, he's far more likely to just stay where he is and take who's there...

Introducing these type of facts to the discussion will really hamper the dick ripping about things that haven't happened . Please stop.

 

[DefNextYear]

Ah more about pick value/trading away picks than the player as such. Fair enough. Looks pretty good though.

Yea, for me personally, not to give a super longwinded answer:

• I do think Jeanty is special and the best RB in the class. I would bet against the Bears picking a better RB in this class at 39 or later.
  • I know Ben can still make a number of RBs look really good if the line is functional, so I don't see a need to be desperate.
• RBs general shelf life is a concern for a top 10 pick. A starting OT can last a decade. Any RB that gets that far is definitely an exception. This leads into the positional value stuff too.
  • Throwing premium draft picks (2nd rounders) into this just kills me even more.
• RBs are cheaper to obtain otherwise... trades, free agency, etc. Premium QBs, OTs, Edges, DTs more rarely become available.
• If the Bears got Jeanty, I would be excited to watch him. It's not about that.

 

[Myk]

I remember Benson alright. Dumping thomas jones. Good times lol! Whatever about poles ben johnson deserves some trust and if he wants jeanty I'm not going to complain. Caleb was trying to play hero ball too much last year. Let the rb carry the load.

If Jeanty can block I'm OK with it (at 10). A blocking RB counts as an oline boost to me plus everything else a good RB brings to a team.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

 

[DefNextYear]

If Jeanty can block I'm OK with it (at 10). A blocking RB counts as an oline boost to me plus everything else a good RB brings to a team.

He's not a good blocker.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

If you thought moving from 10 to 5 to draft Jeanty would make people mad, just wait.... lol.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

If it's true that Jacksonville is interested in a move up to get Hunter, that blows up this draft.

 

[--CyBear--]

That's from this year. This time last year, Ollie Gordon was the Doak Walker winner, and this year is widely considered a 3rd day pick.

Never said they should get you drafted #4. You asked if he was recognized as a top talent.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

He's not a good blocker.

Wut? That's simply not true. Definitely needs refinement, wouldn't say he's as polished as a guy like Henderson. But he's more then capable.