Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[GoDJtop10]

maybe that guy? i dunno

im not on the list, so it seems a bid skewed

Thanks!

 

[Antobears]

And Claypool wasn't even a love affair it was a bandaid because Poles ignored the offense for his 2nd year QB.





I certainly wouldn't over pay to move up for anyone we would draft so a trade up with your prices isn't happening.
And it's most likely not happening with anyone in this draft because that player isn't there.
It has to be a bidding war to cause an over pay.





The Bears drafted Enis and Benson. Bears fans are still butt hurt about it so we can never draft another high RB again.

I remember Benson alright. Dumping thomas jones. Good times lol! Whatever about poles ben johnson deserves some trust and if he wants jeanty I'm not going to complain. Caleb was trying to play hero ball too much last year. Let the rb carry the load.

 

[GoDJtop10]

Yes. It was posted in this thread by @DefNextYear

Thanks!

 

[thenewguy]

Poles record on draft day pick moves - In three drafts, he's moved up a grand total of once, the small move from 61 to 55 for Stevenson. He's had one lateral pick swap (a 5th {Booker} last year for this year's 4th). And he moved down seven times. So, based on his past trend, Poles is more likely to move down than up. However, he's far more likely to just stay where he is and take who's there...

Introducing these type of facts to the discussion will really hamper the dick ripping about things that haven't happened . Please stop.

 

[DefNextYear]

Ah more about pick value/trading away picks than the player as such. Fair enough. Looks pretty good though.

Yea, for me personally, not to give a super longwinded answer:

• I do think Jeanty is special and the best RB in the class. I would bet against the Bears picking a better RB in this class at 39 or later.
  • I know Ben can still make a number of RBs look really good if the line is functional, so I don't see a need to be desperate.
• RBs general shelf life is a concern for a top 10 pick. A starting OT can last a decade. Any RB that gets that far is definitely an exception. This leads into the positional value stuff too.
  • Throwing premium draft picks (2nd rounders) into this just kills me even more.
• RBs are cheaper to obtain otherwise... trades, free agency, etc. Premium QBs, OTs, Edges, DTs more rarely become available.
• If the Bears got Jeanty, I would be excited to watch him. It's not about that.

 

[Myk]

I remember Benson alright. Dumping thomas jones. Good times lol! Whatever about poles ben johnson deserves some trust and if he wants jeanty I'm not going to complain. Caleb was trying to play hero ball too much last year. Let the rb carry the load.

If Jeanty can block I'm OK with it (at 10). A blocking RB counts as an oline boost to me plus everything else a good RB brings to a team.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

 

[DefNextYear]

If Jeanty can block I'm OK with it (at 10). A blocking RB counts as an oline boost to me plus everything else a good RB brings to a team.

He's not a good blocker.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

If you thought moving from 10 to 5 to draft Jeanty would make people mad, just wait.... lol.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915504107466457295

If it's true that Jacksonville is interested in a move up to get Hunter, that blows up this draft.

 

[--CyBear--]

That's from this year. This time last year, Ollie Gordon was the Doak Walker winner, and this year is widely considered a 3rd day pick.

Never said they should get you drafted #4. You asked if he was recognized as a top talent.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

He's not a good blocker.

Wut? That's simply not true. Definitely needs refinement, wouldn't say he's as polished as a guy like Henderson. But he's more then capable.

 

[Antobears]

Yea, for me personally, not to give a super longwinded answer:

• I do think Jeanty is special and the best RB in the class. I would bet against the Bears picking a better RB in this class at 39 or later.
  • I know Ben can still make a number of RBs look really good if the line is functional, so I don't see a need to be desperate.
• RBs general shelf life is a concern for a top 10 pick. A starting OT can last a decade. Any RB that gets that far is definitely an exception. This leads into the positional value stuff too.
  • Throwing premium draft picks (2nd rounders) into this just kills me even more.
• RBs are cheaper to obtain otherwise... trades, free agency, etc. Premium QBs, OTs, Edges, DTs more rarely become available.
• If the Bears got Jeanty, I would be excited to watch him. It's not about that.

Can't disagree with your points but I was a little underwhelmed by swift and johnson last year. Would be nice to have a rb who could create yards and take some pressure off the young QB.

 

[remydat]

I think Jacksonville just maybe isn't that interested in Graham or any other prospect at 5. Suddenly they are linked to Jeanty and Warren at 5 as those are really the only available players that maybe someone is interested in trading up for.

Maybe they are hoping some team that really wants Jeanty will trade up to 5 with them so they can get out of that spot.

I absolutely hate Ryan Poles and think he has made huge mistakes, but I refuse to believe he is dumb enough to trade up to 5 to draft a RB. I don't buy it.

Question isnt whether Poles is dumb enough to trade up for Jeanty but whether Johnson is given the Lions took Gibbs high in 2023. If the rumors are true it is obvious this is Johnson pushing for this.

 

[Myk]

He's not a good blocker.

That doesn't matter at this time.
If that's who Poles takes at 10 all I can do is wait and see if he's a good blocker. Then in a year or two I could look back and decide if it was a good pick.

If he trades up without a steal of a deal that makes it being a good pick much more difficult since he takes up 2 spots that could've been oline or dline.

 

[Nelly]

Yea, for me personally, not to give a super longwinded answer:

• I do think Jeanty is special and the best RB in the class. I would bet against the Bears picking a better RB in this class at 39 or later.
  • I know Ben can still make a number of RBs look really good if the line is functional, so I don't see a need to be desperate.
• RBs general shelf life is a concern for a top 10 pick. A starting OT can last a decade. Any RB that gets that far is definitely an exception. This leads into the positional value stuff too.
  • Throwing premium draft picks (2nd rounders) into this just kills me even more.
• RBs are cheaper to obtain otherwise... trades, free agency, etc. Premium QBs, OTs, Edges, DTs more rarely become available.
• If the Bears got Jeanty, I would be excited to watch him. It's not about that.

We know Henderson can block with the best of them and we know he's a homerun threat wherever he is on the field. He's not the rushing talent that Jeanty is but for that 2nd round pick, or a minor trade-up to ensure you get him? Much, much, much better value than even taking Jeanty at #10 let alone basically trading what could be Henderson + #10 for Jeanty. If Johnson is the offensive guru he's claimed to be then he could do wonders with Henderson and Swift who are both threats to house it if they get the ball in space. We shouldn't need to have to spend a top 10 pick on a running back with a coach like that.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915484823621427354

 

[pseudonym]

I'm hoping for LT at #10, even with a little trade back to 13/15 or so, and then hitting DE/TE/RB in the 2nd, and then maybe Center in the third. That's the smart thing to do. Jeanty or Warren (or even Tet) at #10 is exciting. I wonder if Egbuka will be there in the 2nd, he'd be a really nice WR3 for us. If we trade down, I wonder what pick we'd get—2nd, 3rd, 4th? Top 100 picks are where I want us. Outside of the top blue chippers there are a lot of guys in the 15-20 range.

 

[Antobears]

We know Henderson can block with the best of them and we know he's a homerun threat wherever he is on the field. He's not the rushing talent that Jeanty is but for that 2nd round pick, or a minor trade-up to ensure you get him? Much, much, much better value than even taking Jeanty at #10 let alone basically trading what could be Henderson + #10 for Jeanty. If Johnson is the offensive guru he's claimed to be then he could do wonders with Henderson and Swift who are both threats to house it if they get the ball in space. We shouldn't need to have to spend a top 10 pick on a running back with a coach like that.

Looking at this lad now. Definitely fast but doesnt look as talented a natural runner as jeanty as you acknowledge. Question is how much betternis jeanty? That's the projection poles/johnson need to get right. Personally not as concerned about missing out on a second round pick if Jeanty is good enough to give the qb some room to develop.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915510610583765166