No I made a very specific distinction that the best of all time shouldn't also have a giant hole in their game, the post season. You can attempt to twist my statements in whatever convoluted way you prefer. The point remains the same. He is lacking a very important part to be considered the best of all time. Being a regular season god does not make up for under-performing when it counts the most. It also happens to be a double standard since damn near no one else in the league would be given that much rope.
I do not see a double standard... unless you want to call it a double standard against manning in brady's favor.
The difference is that Manning pretty much carries his team on his back, with little help from a running game or defense.
We can compare manning to Brady... And I would say Brady is widely considered the most "clutch" playoff QB of this era, for whatever you think that is worth.
Brady gets the edge with his early wins on the back of some pretty damn good defensive showings.
But, Since Indy beat the pats in 2006 and won the super bowl, Brady and the pats have been to 2 superbowls, lost both, and went 6-6.
Manning on both teams has been to 2 super bowls and lost both, and gone 4-6.
I dont really see a huge edge there.
Really, I see mannings teams over achieving due to his success much more so than other QBs around the league, and they are far less likely to win without a stellar game from manning whereas Brady et-al have a little wiggle room.
Since 2007, Manning has been unable to advance in the playoffs if he has an off day- He is 0-5 in playoff games when he has less than a 2-1 td to int outing.
Brady on the other hand has advanced 3 times throwing more interceptions than touchdowns.
Brady has put up 16 points per game in his 6 losses since 2007, and his defenses have given up 25.5 points per game.
Manning has put up 19.5 per game in losses, and his D has given up 30 points per game.
Brady won his super bowls with the 1st, 2nd, and 6th ranked scoring D in the league.
Manning won his with the 23rd ranked scoring d.
Brady lost 2 super bowls with the 4th ranked scoring defense and the 15th ranked scoring defense.
Manning lost 2 super bowls with the 8th ranked scoring defense and the 22nd ranked scoring defense.
I really do not see Brady as more clutch, I just see him as having an outstanding defense to bail him out in the big games.
The best part about this conversation is that it is going to rage on forever just as it stands with no clear answer. I believe both Manning and Brady have seen their last super bowls.
