Pena Claimed By Yankees (Updated)

[dabynsky]

I don't think waiting to see is a wise strategy. The odds aren't in your favor of teams letting aces or near aces (isn't this what most would call CJ Wilson) go. Look we've gone back and forth on this issue, and neither is going to convince the other. But the issue is that the pitching has been much worse than the hitting and there is no reason to think it will improve that much if left alone. The best option coming back from injury is far from a lock to extend his one really good start over a whole season and much less likely to be able to pitch 150+ innings next year. You have a huge hole that is being left by a guy counted on as a top 3 starter, and who knows what Randy Wells you are going to get (the trend isn't encouraging). The guys in the minors are at best bottom of the rotation guys and all have huge question marks about being able to contribute at a level above Rodrigo Lopez (Coleman's stuff, McNutt's health and inconsisentcy, Jay Jackson suckiness, Nicholas Struck being rushed to AAA, etc.). This idea that Cubs pitching will magically fix itself is a recipe for virtually guarantee failure next season.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I don't see the market being that big for him. Who really needs a 1B? Dodgers and Mets are almost certainly out due to MLB. Detroit has Miggy, although they could use one at DH, I suppose. Maybe NYY for DH. I just don't see a huge market for him. However, if NYY gets in on it, it could be bad.

considering how big of an impact player he is..he will get plenty of attention imo

some AL teams like you listed may be after him for DH...

 

[nwfisch]

I don't see the market being that big for him. Who really needs a 1B? Dodgers and Mets are almost certainly out due to MLB. Detroit has Miggy, although they could use one at DH, I suppose. Maybe NYY for DH. I just don't see a huge market for him. However, if NYY gets in on it, it could be bad.

Any team that doesn't have Cabrera, Pujols or money tied into 1B will want Fielder.

 

[Jntg4]

Any team that doesn't have Cabrera, Pujols or money tied into 1B will want Fielder.

He's referring to teams that have large enough payrolls only...

 

[DewsSox79]

yeah, a player like him wont be limited to a few teams. Suitors will come out of the wood work bidding for his services.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I don't think waiting to see is a wise strategy. The odds aren't in your favor of teams letting aces or near aces (isn't this what most would call CJ Wilson) go. Look we've gone back and forth on this issue, and neither is going to convince the other. But the issue is that the pitching has been much worse than the hitting and there is no reason to think it will improve that much if left alone. The best option coming back from injury is far from a lock to extend his one really good start over a whole season and much less likely to be able to pitch 150+ innings next year. You have a huge hole that is being left by a guy counted on as a top 3 starter, and who knows what Randy Wells you are going to get (the trend isn't encouraging). The guys in the minors are at best bottom of the rotation guys and all have huge question marks about being able to contribute at a level above Rodrigo Lopez (Coleman's stuff, McNutt's health and inconsisentcy, Jay Jackson suckiness, Nicholas Struck being rushed to AAA, etc.). This idea that Cubs pitching will magically fix itself is a recipe for virtually guarantee failure next season.

I disagree. I think by just being healthy, our rotation drastically improves. Sure, Wells has been kinda shaky, but bad Wells is better than Davis/Russell/Lopez. I think that we could see a guy like Wandy signed, then leave the last 2 spots up to system guys(Wells, Cash, McNutt, JJax, etc)

Any team that doesn't have Cabrera, Pujols or money tied into 1B will want Fielder.

Which is how many teams? Plus, most teams can't afford him.

 

[nwfisch]

I disagree. I think by just being healthy, our rotation drastically improves. Sure, Wells has been kinda shaky, but bad Wells is better than Davis/Russell/Lopez. I think that we could see a guy like Wandy signed, then leave the last 2 spots up to system guys(Wells, Cash, McNutt, JJax, etc)


Which is how many teams? Plus, most teams can't afford him.

I'll go with teams that have money tied up in 1B/DH
Yankees 1B
Red Sox 1B/DH?
Tigers 1B
White Sox 1B
Texas

Philly
Cubs
Brewers
Cardinals
Reds
Colorado
LAD

11 teams have money on the books off of my head in 1B. I would think 20 teams would have interest in Fielder. Though that number will quickly go down to 10-15.

 

[DewsSox79]

I disagree. I think by just being healthy, our rotation drastically improves. Sure, Wells has been kinda shaky, but bad Wells is better than Davis/Russell/Lopez. I think that we could see a guy like Wandy signed, then leave the last 2 spots up to system guys(Wells, Cash, McNutt, JJax, etc)


Which is how many teams? Plus, most teams can't afford him.

False. Affording him and wanting to spend that type of dough are 2 different things that cannot be confused with each other. But hey, dont listen to me...listen to someone like rogers or kaplan. I just dont want to see you sad when you dont get fielder.

 

[DewsSox79]

I'll go with teams that have money tied up in 1B/DH
Yankees 1B
Red Sox 1B/DH?
Tigers 1B
White Sox 1B
Texas

Philly
Cubs
Brewers
Cardinals
Reds
Colorado
LAD

11 teams have money on the books off of my head in 1B. I would think 20 teams would have interest in Fielder. Though that number will quickly go down to 10-15.

rosters as constructed now can change instantly in the offseason. Fielders future is suited for the DH. Just because TEX is playing 1b doesnt mean fielder wont DH and so on with many teams. There are a lot of teams that keep their financial situations quiet.

 

[Captain Obvious]

False. Affording him and wanting to spend that type of dough are 2 different things that cannot be confused with each other. But hey, dont listen to me...listen to someone like rogers or kaplan. I just dont want to see you sad when you dont get fielder.

Okay then who do you think can afford him?

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

agreed with dewey...fielder is an top caliber commodity and some teams may fork over money for him..even for a DH spot in the AL

 

[Captain Obvious]

ATL has Freddie Freeman
FLA is cheap.
Washington's payroll is too low.
Philly has Howard.
Mets seem unlikely due to MLB having a say in what they do.

Cardinals - Pujols.
Milwaukee will try to resign him.
Cin - Votto
Pitt - Cheap
Houston sucks.
We'll go after him.

Giants might go after him. They have about 72 on the books now, but Lincecum is due for a raise. I could see them making a go at him, though.
Dodgers are a mess.
AZ is cheap.
Padres are cheap.
Rockies only have about 20 coming off the books.

So in the NL we have Cubs, MIL, and the Giants.

AL:

Yankees are definitely a possibility.
Boston is a pass.
Doubt he'd go to Toronto, but they could definitely afford it.
Orioles are cheap.
Rays, too.

CHW has enough 1B.
Detroit has Miggy, but definitely could make a run at him. Especially when you think about who his dad is.
Minnesota has JM.
Royals don't even count.
Indians are being cheap lately. Decreasing payroll 3 years in a row.

Rangers would seem to have CJ has their top priority. They have about 50 coming off, but have a lot of spots to fill. Maybe.
A's, let's get real.
Seattle is not very likely.
LAA could definitely make a run at him.

That gives us the Rangers, Angels, Detroit, Toronto, and the Yankees.

That's 8 teams total and a couple of those are iffy's.

 

[DewsSox79]

^^^^^ It all points to the cubs getting Fielder.

 

[Captain Obvious]

^^^^^ It all points to the cubs getting Fielder.

Well do you disagree with any of the assessment that I made? It's not that hard to make a productive post.

 

[nwfisch]

ATL has Freddie Freeman
FLA is cheap.
Washington's payroll is too low.
Philly has Howard.
Mets seem unlikely due to MLB having a say in what they do.

Cardinals - Pujols.
Milwaukee will try to resign him.
Cin - Votto
Pitt - Cheap
Houston sucks.
We'll go after him.

Giants might go after him. They have about 72 on the books now, but Lincecum is due for a raise. I could see them making a go at him, though.
Dodgers are a mess.
AZ is cheap.
Padres are cheap.
Rockies only have about 20 coming off the books.

So in the NL we have Cubs, MIL, and the Giants.

AL:

Yankees are definitely a possibility.
Boston is a pass.
Doubt he'd go to Toronto, but they could definitely afford it.
Orioles are cheap.
Rays, too.

CHW has enough 1B.
Detroit has Miggy, but definitely could make a run at him. Especially when you think about who his dad is.
Minnesota has JM.
Royals don't even count.
Indians are being cheap lately. Decreasing payroll 3 years in a row.

Rangers would seem to have CJ has their top priority. They have about 50 coming off, but have a lot of spots to fill. Maybe.
A's, let's get real.
Seattle is not very likely.
LAA could definitely make a run at him.

That gives us the Rangers, Angels, Detroit, Toronto, and the Yankees.

That's 8 teams total and a couple of those are iffy's.

All the teams I bolded, I disagree with your assements, just based off the fact that any team who doesn't have an all-star at 1B will want Fielder.

 

[Jntg4]

^^^^^ It all points to the cubs getting Fielder.

No shit DewCawks! What else would happen? Are you insane, of course we are getting him. Come on DewCawks, you're better than this.

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Rly tho, no way we get him.

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[Captain Obvious]

All the teams I bolded, I disagree with your assements, just based off the fact that any team who doesn't have an all-star at 1B will want Fielder.

How are they going to afford him??

No shit DewCawks! What else would happen? Are you insane, of course we are getting him. Come on DewCawks, you're better than this.

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Rly tho, no way we get him.

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No way we get him? Care to elaborate?

 

[nwfisch]

How are they going to afford him??



No way we get him? Care to elaborate?

Cut salary and other expenses. People wondered how the Miami Heat could afford 3 superstars....:elephant:

 

[Jntg4]

How are they going to afford him??



No way we get him? Care to elaborate?

This has been answered hundreds of times...

 

[DewsSox79]

Well do you disagree with any of the assessment that I made? It's not that hard to make a productive post.

Only the parts where you claim a team "cheap".Especially AZ and Pitt who have surprised a lot of people with their play this year. To say that a team is cheap just because they have been rebuilding or not spending a lot of money in the recent years DOES NOT mean that those teams wont bid for a Prince Fielder.

Again, roster spots can change before the bidding war begins. The only team I would discount are the padres, the owner has stated publicly that the payroll will not be high in the next few years.

Another is the Royals possibly since they dont need bats, they need SP. Its not just because they are "the royals" or whatever BS line you had in your original post. They do have one of the best systems in all of baseball. They are in NEED of pitching.

and before you get a "boner", the thanks was sarcasm.