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Also looks like this when finished. PATIENCE people....PATIENCE.

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You know who else had two World Series rings as GM before The Cubs made him President?




That's right, Andy McPhail
 

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You know who else had two World Series rings as GM before The Cubs made him President?




That's right, Andy McPhail

That point has been made before but has fallen on deaf ears. Most likely because most here are too young to even know who Andy is.
 

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because you're going to sign one of those big FA's to a large contract that you will end up paying for in years ahead. Do you really want to live through the Hendry days again? Yeah, let's give a HUGE contract to a FA that will set the franchise back a few more years when they aren't ready to contend! That's the smart way!


No one is making buy those season tickets. That's your choice. You've known this team won't contend for a few years since Theo took over.

you realize that the team that came closest to winning the world series in recent memory was a hendry team. at least hendry tried to win.

the smart way is to go for prospects AND spend money to win. that's what champions do. champions don't blow up the team with the hopes of some vaunted prospects 5 years down the line. real champions are always trying to win. but you wouldn't know about any of that, would you? or you don't care.

also, let me get this straight. i'm supposed to keep giving a team that's not even trying to win my money and time?
 

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you realize that the team that came closest to winning the world series in recent memory was a hendry team. at least hendry tried to win.

the smart way is to go for prospects AND spend money to win. that's what champions do. champions don't blow up the team with the hopes of some vaunted prospects 5 years down the line. real champions are always trying to win. but you wouldn't know about any of that, would you? or you don't care.

also, let me get this straight. i'm supposed to keep giving a team that's not even trying to win my money and time?

So many :facepalm: at this crap.

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Or maybe if they landed Sanchez and Tanaka, they would have one of the top 4 or 5 rotations in the National League and by virtue of not having E-Jax, they would have a surplus to spend on another bona fide player. I guess it's how you spend the 40 million.

Their starters ERA is 1.95 through the first week. Pitching isnt the problem this year. Shark and Wood will be above average guys, Hammel and Arrieta are in spots to succeed. Jackson had a nice first outing. The bullpen away from Veras is actually REALLY good.
 

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Their starters ERA is 1.95 through the first week. Pitching isnt the problem this year. Shark and Wood will be above average guys, Hammel and Arrieta are in spots to succeed. Jackson had a nice first outing. The bullpen away from Veras is actually REALLY good.

First off, to claim that the pitching isn't the problem one week into the season has no foundation whatsoever. The problem that they currently have, is the exact same problem they had last year and went unaddressed.

If you know you have a problem, isn't it best to face it and do something about it, rather than looking the other way?
 

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If you know you have a problem, isn't it best to face it and do something about it, rather than looking the other way?

You mean to tell me a team should address weaknesses in the offseason?

Crazy talk Boo.
 

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First off, to claim that the pitching isn't the problem one week into the season has no foundation whatsoever. The problem that they currently have, is the exact same problem they had last year and went unaddressed.

If you know you have a problem, isn't it best to face it and do something about it, rather than looking the other way?

2013: Cubs team ERA 4.00 ranked #21 out of 30
2013: Runs scored 602. Ranked #28 out of 30.

The sputtering O was a bigger problem last year than the pitching was. Neither was great.
 

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On the flip: Red Sox led with 853 and won it all. Tigers #2 at 796. They were in the play offs. Cards #3...WS. A's #4...play off team.

Scoring runs matters more. Pitching comes into play in a short series. But you have to get there in the reg season first before worrying about that issue.
 

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First off, to claim that the pitching isn't the problem one week into the season has no foundation whatsoever. The problem that they currently have, is the exact same problem they had last year and went unaddressed.

If you know you have a problem, isn't it best to face it and do something about it, rather than looking the other way?

What hitters would you suggest they shouldve have gotten over the offseason. They arent 1 or 2 hitters away from contending. No reason to spend money on a 31/32 year old Ellsbury or Granderson. Remember when people wanted the Cubs to go crazy after Pujols then Hamilton the following year? Hey guess how paying huge $ to guys exiting their prime work out?

If you dont think the Tigers deal with Miggy Cabrera is one of, if not the worst in the history of baseball then I dont think you understand the MLB and the direction its headed
 

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What hitters would you suggest they shouldve have gotten over the offseason. They arent 1 or 2 hitters away from contending.

And yet the same people think that all it will take for the Cubs to contend is 1 or 2 prospects. lol



If you dont think the Tigers deal with Miggy Cabrera is one of, if not the worst in the history of baseball then I dont think you understand the MLB and the direction its headed

And yet how many of these 'worst contracts in the history of baseball' have there been lately?

All the teenage girls cried that Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton, Robinson Cano and now Miguel Cabrera were the worst contracts in the history of baseball.

Those were all in the last 3 years, so who really isn't understanding the MLB and the direction it is headed?

You do realize that teams will be getting more and more and more money which means it is easier and easier and easier for them to give out these 'worst contracts in the history of baseball' don't you?

By the time the year 2020 comes around, I doubt either Pujols or Cabrera will be in the top 10 of highest paid players.
 

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And yet the same people think that all it will take for the Cubs to contend is 1 or 2 prospects. lol

And yet how many of these 'worst contracts in the history of baseball' have there been lately?

All the teenage girls cried that Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton, Robinson Cano and now Miguel Cabrera were the worst contracts in the history of baseball.

Those were all in the last 3 years, so who really isn't understanding the MLB and the direction it is headed?

You do realize that teams will be getting more and more and more money which means it is easier and easier and easier for them to give out these 'worst contracts in the history of baseball' don't you?

By the time the year 2020 comes around, I doubt either Pujols or Cabrera will be in the top 10 of highest paid players.

there you go again with independent thought dude. STOP IT.
 

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you realize that the team that came closest to winning the world series in recent memory was a hendry team. at least hendry tried to win.

Did they even come close to theWorld Series? No. Got swept...TWICE. And guess what? The Cubs were put into a hole by those awful contracts.

the smart way is to go for prospects AND spend money to win. that's what champions do. champions don't blow up the team with the hopes of some vaunted prospects 5 years down the line. real champions are always trying to win. but you wouldn't know about any of that, would you? or you don't care.


They will spend the money when the time is right. The time isn't now. Next season is the right time. Who did you want to see them sign? Give me names that make sense and not huge contracts.


also, let me get this straight. i'm supposed to keep giving a team that's not even trying to win my money and time?



NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY SEASON TICKETS. Don't like what is on the field, don't buy. Simple as that.
 

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They will spend the money when the time is right. The time isn't now. Next season is the right time. Who did you want to see them sign? Give me names that make sense and not huge contracts.

After 3 seasons of the worst baseball in the history of Chicago will be the right time to invest in FAs?
 
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Did they even come close to theWorld Series? No. Got swept...TWICE. And guess what? The Cubs were put into a hole by those awful contracts.




They will spend the money when the time is right. The time isn't now. Next season is the right time. Who did you want to see them sign? Give me names that make sense and not huge contracts.






NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY SEASON TICKETS. Don't like what is on the field, don't buy. Simple as that.

Ricketts has shown no desire to spend. To say they will spend when the time is right is just blind faith. Also, Hendry brought the Cubs within 5 outs of the World Series. Closer then anyone including Theo has ever gotten the Cubs. Oh and those awful contracts were awful because of ownership. Hendry had to backload every contract. I have even shown an article with Hendry talking about it.
 

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Did they even come close to theWorld Series? No. Got swept...TWICE. And guess what? The Cubs were put into a hole by those awful contracts.




They will spend the money when the time is right. The time isn't now. Next season is the right time. Who did you want to see them sign? Give me names that make sense and not huge contracts.






NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY SEASON TICKETS. Don't like what is on the field, don't buy. Simple as that.

Came close in 2003, but Epstein isn't supposed to get credit for inheriting the 2004 team so Hendry not getting credit for 2003 is fair enough I suppose. IDK.
 

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Came close in 2003, but Epstein isn't supposed to get credit for inheriting the 2004 team so Hendry not getting credit for 2003 is fair enough I suppose. IDK.

Im pretty sure you are being sarcastic, but I have read some Cubs fan who discredit Jim Hendry for 2003 and praise Theo for the 2004 World Series. It makes me giggle that they are stupid and dont even know it.

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Let's be realistic here. Yes they can spend some and yes they aren't going to go HAM on it. They can easily spend on 1 premium guy next year. At this point there's no reason to believe they intend to increase payroll beyond $105-110 mil where it has been the past 2 years and dropped this year until they start getting more revenue going via signs/whatever. They will have the majority of the money they would have spent on Tanaka as they really only added Hammels on a 1 year deal. They will also have the $14(?) mil they payed NYY on Soriano this year. That likely puts them in the $25-35 mil range in space under the $105-110 mil budget.

I'm honestly not sure what's going to be around next year. Hitting probably will be abysmal. Masterson might not be a bad pick up as well as other pitchers but it seems like a lot more teams have money to spend these days. So, are we really comfortable giving a #2 pitcher $25 mil? Personally, I would like to see them be more active in acquiring pre-FA players and then using their money to extend those players. Hopefully that can start as soon as the trade deadline. They've done well trading vets for failed prospects in trades. However, I'd like to see them trade some prospects for a quality player. I'm not saying it has to be david price. I think a good example of the type of trade i'm talking about would be Fister. The two obvious areas to do this would be OF and pitching. An interesting concept would be if they could move someone like Shark at the trade deadline but then in turn get someone like Masterson to replace him and then sign Masterson long term.
 

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Im pretty sure you are being sarcastic, but I have read some Cubs fan who discredit Jim Hendry for 2003 and praise Theo for the 2004 World Series. It makes me giggle that they are stupid and dont even know it.

=)

Probably the same people who don't credit Bowman with 2010 or 2013 because he didn't draft Kane and Toews.
 

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