Robinson unlikely to be extended before deadline

[rawdawg]

So losing their best offensive weapon who dominated the receiving stats won't make any difference? Who will fill the void? Goodwin seemed to be at the end of his career in San Francisco. He had only 12 receptions that year and was targeted less and less his last two years. Byrd, an UDFA, has had only one decent year and N.E. didn't seem to mind seeing him go.

Mooney certainly has promise, but most don't see him holding up as a 1 receiver. His huge success is still a projection

So if AR goes, you're betting on potential and some fringe players. Not a very good way to support your prize rookie QB.

Yeah, you missed the point. I said, IF FIELDS IS A SUPERSTAR it won't matter....speaking in the long run. Obviously, him becoming a superstar is probably a little harder without Robinson, which is what I pointed out in my post that you quoted.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

His stats might still bring down his market if Dalton rolls for half the season.

LOL whut? Go have a look at Amari Cooper's stats.

 

[Starion]

LOL whut? Go have a look at Amari Cooper's stats.

Compared to if Fields comes of age earlier. Yeah, he'll be good no doubt, but not top 5 with Dalton.

Also, there's still the Nagy factor at play. Fields is the only one with the clout to tell Nagy off if Nagy be Naggyin' things up later. Dalton will just get benched or jettisoned b/c he's expendable.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Compared to if Fields comes of age earlier. Yeah, he'll be good no doubt, but not top 5 with Dalton.

Also, there's still the Nagy factor at play. Fields is the only one with the clout to tell Nagy off if Nagy be Naggyin' things up later. Dalton will just get benched or jettisoned b/c he's expendable.

Lol he’s quarterback proof, have you not watched his career? I’m confused. If anything, Arob will make Dalton look better then he actually is at times, much like he did for mitch.

 

[Starion]

Lol he’s quarterback proof, have you not watched his career? I’m confused. If anything, Arob will make Dalton look better then he actually is at times, much like he did for mitch.

How are you still confused?

I agree!! I'm talking top 5 #s. He won't likely get to top 5 WR #s with Dalton. That's all I'm saying.

ARob is obviously a beast despite having shit QB play his entire career. He won't get to the top 5 stats needed to meet his top 5 contract demands without Fields all/most of the year - assuming Fields is all he's cracked up to be. (I think he will be great BTW).

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The next 10 years are not going to be determined by ARob.

 

[Rise]

Won’t pay best player on offense in his prime but will pay old has been linebackers. Wonders why packers are always better.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

2018 was he was coming back from that injury. He is a top 5 receiver. How you guys do not see this baffles me.

 

[napo55]

Yeah, you missed the point. I said, IF FIELDS IS A SUPERSTAR it won't matter....speaking in the long run. Obviously, him becoming a superstar is probably a little harder without Robinson, which is what I pointed out in my post that you quoted.

Well, in the long run, we're all dead. IMO, the next couple of years are going to be critical for Field's growth as a professional QB.

 

[Toast88]

are there any players in the league who have taken 2 consecutive franchise tags? It seems to piss some of these guys off getting tagged

Yeah, definitely. A couple dozen guys have been franchised in consecutive years, including Kirk Cousins, Anthony Spencer, Phil Dawson, Terrell Suggs. Orlando Pace and Walter Jones got franchised three straight years.

Just as a thought exercise. If you're the Bears and Robinson's price truly is too high, the smart thing to do is just to keep franchise tagging him until he's either not worth it, you work out a lower deal, or you run out of franchise tag years.

 

[fenderpfunk]

Allen Robinson will NOT be the reason we win a super bowl in 2045 - so therefore I do not see why we would need him around to help our prospective franchise QB during his first few seasons.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Won’t pay best player on offense in his prime but will pay old has been linebackers. Wonders why packers are always better.

Packers are always better because they've had a HOF qb for the last 30 years

 

[Toast88]

Packers are always better because they've had a HOF qb for the last 30 years

Truth. Their roster has actually been pretty shitty overall much of that time.

They'll have the occasional really good receiver or tight end or linebacker, but for the most part, top to bottom, nah.

 

[mattb78]

2018 was he was coming back from that injury. He is a top 5 receiver. How you guys do not see this baffles me.

A top 5 receiver needs big play ability, and you don't get that from Robinson. Take QB out of the picture, Robinson doesn't possess breakaway speed and is not a deep ball threat.

He is a fantastic possession receiver. I feel he is more of a top 10-15 WR talent wise and the Bears have tried to retain him accordingly.

But Robinson is putting up big numbers because he gets a ton of targets, not because he is really breaking big plays like some of the top paid receivers in the league. You don't have to double cover him. He isn't going to blow the doors off a CB.

 

[rawdawg]

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I think this is important to point out. Everyone who's against paying ARob 20M say stuff like he's not top 5. But that doesn't really matter. What matters is when guys hit the market. Keenan Allen is not a top 5 WR. Amari Cooper is not. Yet, both are paid as top 5 WRs. And maybe we should consider ARob a top 5 WR.

Look at those lists. Granted, receptions aren't the "end-all, be-all" of who's a better player. But Michael Thomas got hurt. Julio hurt. Edelman hurt. Allen couldn't even hit 1000 yards last year. Waller, Kelce, and McCaffery are not WRs. Diggs just put up his 1st year of elite caliber play. Same with Lockett and his teammate DK. Adams is better than ARob, but not on the 2019 list. Hopkins is widely considered top 5 (and the highest paid WR in the league) yet look at his numbers compared to Robinson's. Yards per catch, TDs are almost exactly the same (with YPC favoring ARob). The difference is catch %, which could be largely based on playing with Watson and Murray instead of Trubisky and Foles. Based on consistency, ARob is probably a top 5 WR.

 

[Les Grossman]

A top 5 receiver needs big play ability, and you don't get that from Robinson. Take QB out of the picture, Robinson doesn't possess breakaway speed and is not a deep ball threat.

He is a fantastic possession receiver. I feel he is more of a top 10-15 WR talent wise and the Bears have tried to retain him accordingly.

But Robinson is putting up big numbers because he gets a ton of targets, not because he is really breaking big plays like some of the top paid receivers in the league. You don't have to double cover him. He isn't going to blow the doors off a CB.

No, he's not a speedster but he is still a playmaker imo. I still come back to the PHI playoff game with his catch that set up the double doink. This offense doesn't have a go to guy without AR.

That said, he still can only do so much with a shitty QB and he isn't a game changer on the regular.

 

[Nelly]

A top 5 receiver needs big play ability, and you don't get that from Robinson. Take QB out of the picture, Robinson doesn't possess breakaway speed and is not a deep ball threat.

He is a fantastic possession receiver. I feel he is more of a top 10-15 WR talent wise and the Bears have tried to retain him accordingly.

But Robinson is putting up big numbers because he gets a ton of targets, not because he is really breaking big plays like some of the top paid receivers in the league. You don't have to double cover him. He isn't going to blow the doors off a CB.

He's more of a deep threat than you give him credit for. He's not going to burn by people but his ability to position his body and make contested catches makes him a great downfield threat. Beyond that, look at a guy like Brandon Marshall who was probably the best possession receiver in the league for a few years. Is that not extremely valuable?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He's more of a deep threat than you give him credit for. He's not going to burn by people but his ability to position his body and make contested catches makes him a great downfield threat. Beyond that, look at a guy like Brandon Marshall who was probably the best possession receiver in the league for a few years. Is that not extremely valuable?

I like Arob a lot, but his style of play makes me miss Marshall when he's brought up. Marshall was so much tougher. He blocked, broke tackles, and never dropped to the ground to avoid a hit when there was potentially extra yardage available

 

[dabears70]

Why Ryan Pace Likely Doesn't Fear Losing Allen Robinson

Ryan Pace hasn't made the necessary push to lock up Allen Robinson. So why is the GM so ready to lose the star wide receiver?

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[iueyedoc]

Why Ryan Pace Likely Doesn't Fear Losing Allen Robinson

Ryan Pace hasn't made the necessary push to lock up Allen Robinson. So why is the GM so ready to lose the star wide receiver?

www.sportsmockery.com

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