Royals Interested In Zambrano

[Jntg4]

I hate when a team releases a player and he does nothing, but makes tons of money. If he can keep his head in check, keep him.

OK, so we totally should have kept Silva...

 

[Jntg4]

He can't. It's not possible. He's addicted to being an asshole.

An asshat.

 

[Uman85]

OK, so we totally should have kept Silva...

Hell yes! Bring back that jackass too. He can pitch, so who cares about his attitude!

 

[Jntg4]

Hell yes! Bring back that jackass too. He can pitch, so who cares about his attitude!

No, he can't pitch, actually. lol

 

[Uman85]

No, he can't pitch, actually. lol

Neither can Zambrano anymore.

 

[Rice Cube]

Neither can Zambrano anymore.

You can actually take a look at the statistics and realize that Carlos Zambrano at his worst is still better than Carlos Silva.

If you had $18MM committed to a guy and he can still produce at a positive level, releasing him is basically setting that mound of money on fire. At least if he pitches, you're only setting part of that money on fire instead of the entire pile.

 

[Jntg4]

Neither can Zambrano anymore.

:yep: He sucks.

 

[daddies3angels]

Yeah, let's give him another chance, after every other he's blown. That's the Cubs for you.

im thinking about the Cubs more then Z. Why pay another team to take him when Cubs NEED SP!!! He is on FA year, so if Z wants to get paid after this contract he has to come back , be good, plus pitch very well. If he does come back and pitches well Cubs can save money and get prospects. If Cubs trade him now they will have to basically pay teams to take him. Might as well see if you can get anything out of him. If he causes problems again, you send his ass home. Z then will not get contract for following season. How many guys have we seen have great FA years? TONS!!!

 

[nwfisch]

The thing with Z, is I don't want his behavior to become a standard in the Cub clubhouse. Especially with a good kid like Castro, and a youth movement impending. If Z can return to his 17 win self, and be a hothead, I'd be fine with that.

I'm 99% sure that won't happen, and I think that Z should either be kept on a very short leash or else, if the Ricketts want to bite the bullet and just outright release him.

 

[The Bandit]

im thinking about the Cubs more then Z. Why pay another team to take him when Cubs NEED SP!!! He is on FA year, so if Z wants to get paid after this contract he has to come back , be good, plus pitch very well. If he does come back and pitches well Cubs can save money and get prospects. If Cubs trade him now they will have to basically pay teams to take him. Might as well see if you can get anything out of him. If he causes problems again, you send his ass home. Z then will not get contract for following season. How many guys have we seen have great FA years? TONS!!!

Who give's a flying **** if it's a contract year and the Cubs need pitching? The Cubs need pitching but they don't need Big Z. He is the furthest thing from what this team needs. The dude blows, he's a winy little self centered ***** who isn't worth half of what that contract says that has his name written on it. The *** quit on his team. I don't care if he quits on the fans or on management, but he quit on the guys that play next to him. That's an ultimate betrayl and I don't think that there is a way to get past that. I have no respect for him anymore and I hope to God that I don't see him in a Cubs uni again, and I won't watch him pitch for them again even if they were to bring him back.

 

[Uman85]

Who give's a flying **** if it's a contract year and the Cubs need pitching? The Cubs need pitching but they don't need Big Z. He is the furthest thing from what this team needs. The dude blows, he's a winy little self centered ***** who isn't worth half of what that contract says that has his name written on it. The *** quit on his team. I don't care if he quits on the fans or on management, but he quit on the guys that play next to him. That's an ultimate betrayl and I don't think that there is a way to get past that. I have no respect for him anymore and I hope to God that I don't see him in a Cubs uni again, and I won't watch him pitch for them again even if they were to bring him back.

:clap:

Well said and correct.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Rice and Dabs are full of win in this thread.

 

[Uman85]

Rice and Dabs are full of win in this thread.

:lmao:

That's what I would expect you to think. You're the most clueless poster in the Cubs forum.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Im sorry this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. You obviously have never played sports.


One guy can ruin a whole team and team chemistry is key in winning. If I am Carlos Z teammate and I hate the guy I am not gonna play as hard for him as a guy who doesnt blame me for his own failures.

I take it you have never been part of a team before?

Yes I have been apart of a team. I've been on a team that nearly made it to the state tournament. We had a couple of hotheads on that team. It didn't matter till we lost. Then who got the blame? They did. When we were winning it was all peachy though.

It seems like CO is arguing that Zambrano is a winner, and can still produce.

Zambrano isn't much of a winner, and isn't producing $18M worth of production.

No one is trying to say he is worth 18 million. But it's dumb to set 18 million dollars on fire.

:lmao:

:andruw:

No. Not even close.

Oh? Baseball isn't a business? News to me.

What's best for the team is to not keep Zambrano. Anyone who argues that he should be kept because of his production, despite what he's done and how he affects the clubhouse obviously hasn't played a team sport before. You don't want a guy like that on your team. It's that simple.

I have played on many teams, actually. But I've never been paid. It's a lot different when money is involved.

 

[Captain Obvious]

:lmao:

That's what I would expect you to think. You're the most clueless poster in the Cubs forum.

How did culture and chemistry cause us to lose 90 games again?

 

[Uman85]

How did culture and chemistry cause us to lose 90 games again?

Did you leave the L and I out of your username on purpose or are you just a poor speller?

 

[Captain Obvious]

Did you leave the L and I out of your username on purpose or are you just a poor speller?

That doesn't answer the question, though. I'm pretty sure the reason we lost 90 was due to having awful pitching and a below average offense, along with one of the worst defenses in baseball.

Pretty simple: Good team = good chemistry. Bad team = bad chemistry.

 

[nwfisch]

Releasing Z=burning money?

The Cubs have already burning money in their outfield, and relatively speaking in Ryan Dempster. As good as these players were for the Cubs in 2007, and 2008, its time to leave that and the 103 years of failure in the past.

 

[Rice Cube]

Releasing Z=burning money?

The Cubs have already burning money in their outfield, and relatively speaking in Ryan Dempster. As good as these players were for the Cubs in 2007, and 2008, its time to leave that and the 103 years of failure in the past.

It's a lot easier to say that when it's not your money that's about to be set aflame :lol:

 

[Uman85]

That doesn't answer the question, though. I'm pretty sure the reason we lost 90 was due to having awful pitching and a below average offense, along with one of the worst defenses in baseball.

Pretty simple: Good team = good chemistry. Bad team = bad chemistry.

Nowhere did I say this team lost 90 games because of bad chemistry.

Now, let's try to keep up.

GOING FORWARD, this team needs to rid itself of players like Zambrano. Meaning, now is the time for him to go. Dempster, among others, has stated that he's not good for the team anymore. You don't quit on a team and throw temper tantrums time and again and just get clean slate after clean slate. There are consequences. You say baseball is a business? If that's the case, then Zambrano definitely needs to go. I can't think of any respectable business that would keep someone like him employed.

PRETTY SIMPLE.