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When he first came up wasn't he sitting in the low 90s?
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I don't remember. That's why I asked you, but I think he threw mostly sinkers and they were high-80s when I paid attention. Maddux was more of a control/deception guy than an overpowering guy based on what I saw.
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Like I said, if you pile up a bunch of these control guys with fringe stuff but know how to pitch you might get lucky on one of them, but the odds are really low. Especially if he has to reach back to hit 92-93 but works in the high 80s. I am not saying the kid is doomed to fail, and I see what the Cubs are doing by taking flyers on guys like this as the throwin piece.
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I want to say that both Maddux and Glavine when they first came up pitched more in the low 90s, and Maddux had crazy movement on every pitch with great control. Hendricks is more impressive than some of the other guys because he is missing bats right now, but advanced feel against lower level hitters doesn't always translate to results in the upper levels.
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Well then, I guess we'll just have to wait and see eh? 
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He's obviously overwhelmed the Carolina League. Assign him to Tennessee and let's see what he can do against the Southern League. This would be one indicator if he has any real upside or not.
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Tennessee could certainly use an arm.
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Sorry to inform everyone about this......but....
Ryan Dempster is NOT responsible for rebuilding the Cubs.
He's a baseball player and his job is to look out for himself & his family. They're getting rid of him. What exactly does he owe them?
Anyone here love the fucking Cubs so much that they'd play somewhere they didn't want or move they're family somewhere they didn't want to JUST to help this pathetic franchise.
Anyone who would is either a liar or complete moron.
Ryan Dempster is NOT responsible for rebuilding the Cubs.
He's a baseball player and his job is to look out for himself & his family. They're getting rid of him. What exactly does he owe them?
Anyone here love the fucking Cubs so much that they'd play somewhere they didn't want or move they're family somewhere they didn't want to JUST to help this pathetic franchise.
Anyone who would is either a liar or complete moron.
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I'm just glad it's over.
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This is an absolutely lame statement, and one dripping in the air of ignorance. You speak on this as if a move to Atlanta would have been a hindrence to Dempster, his family, and his future... when in all actuality, it would have been a better move for his career. He cited that this was all about his family, yet wanted to go to LA so bad. LA, which would have put him the same distance from his family and his daughter's doctors as would going to Atlanta. Now he picks a city where he's going to get shellacked, and thus harm his future in baseball. A town in which he's going to find it VERY difficult to home his family in a comfortable fashion for 2-3 months. A town that does not have the medical means that Atlanta or LA have.
So tell me... how is accepting this deal better for him and his family than accepting the deal to Atlanta? The entire pretense of your statement is truly, truly ridiculous when you actually lay down the facts of the matter.
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Oh, I see. You are well acquainted with the Dempster family. You know even better than Dempster himself what's best for him and his family. Its just so unfortunate that Ryan has the 5 & 10 clause and not you....because I'm POSITIVE that with ALL your knowledge of his family and situation that he would've
gladly had you pick his destination.
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If anyone is still mad at Dempster, check out the Villanueva section in the article of the revised top prospects list and tell me we should still be mad.
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I don't think that fans are prohibited from being upset. It was a big deal to lose out on Delgado. But the Cubs made do anyway. Life will go on.
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The fact of the matter is that Dempster moving to any team, ANY TEAM for two months in NO WAY affects his family's future. They never have to go with him. It could be looked at as a 2 month business trip. So the using the argument of his family has absolutely no leg to stand on.
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Delgado. Not even close. RT @ajwalsh08: @Kevin_Goldstein Hendricks/Villanueva or Delgado?
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I understand that, what I was referring too was a side note I wrote up... we don't get Vizcaino if we send Demp for Delgado... if Vizcaino can come back from surgery well, he is probably more valuable than Delgado, and was ranked higher coming into this season fwiw.
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Vizcaino has tremedous upside. 1) still a spec 2) had surgery he is far from a shoe in
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Exactly, I don't see why to be mad at Dempster anymore when him denying that trade allowed us to get Vizcaino. Delgado is still a semi-spec too.
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Which is why Delgado is more valuable as a prospect, but I guess the question is do we land a Villanueva level prospect from someone besides Atlanta. Delgado would have been the best prospect, but the Cubs might have ended up better with Vizcaino because if he does come back his upside is far higher. And they got another legitimate position prospect on top of the lottery ticket that is Vizcaino.
But lets talk about the fact that he has had surgery. The fact that he had surgery is only the least concerning thing about him. He had Tommy John surgery. The number of guys that come back fine or stronger is a lot higher of list than the guys that don't. The concern is that his delivery is kind of violent and he is small guy. He could be a front of the rotation starter, a closer, or Angel Guzman. Coming back from surgery isn't the concern. It is whether this is the tip of the iceberg or not.
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