Ryan Dempster trade thread -UPDATE- No one knows what the **** is going on

[Mr. Cub]

Well this is getting odd....

 

[ZDemp34]

FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK and he said he'd do what's best for the cubs :smh:

 

[2SeamHeat]

Don't know how I feel great value but i don't like Delgado. He only has 2 pitches no real breaking balI don't know how long he stays a starter. Maybe player development can help him devlope another pitch or two. If he does that he would be a steal.

When he pitched well against us on July 4, he showed an excellent FB and change-up... with a very good curve.

 

[2SeamHeat]

Bought how? Does he want a pony?

Extension... which is the same thing speculated as a big reason the LA deal fell through. If Dempster is going to hardline this stuff this hard, he needs to be taken out to the woodshed and whipped. This is kind of ridiculous,

 

[Uman85]

 

[Rice Cube]

Hey I just traded you,
And this is crazy
But it's been voided
So what now baby?

 

[Rice Cube]

Extension... which is the same thing speculated as a big reason the LA deal fell through. If Dempster is going to hardline this stuff this hard, he needs to be taken out to the woodshed and whipped. This is kind of ridiculous,

So now it's up to the GMs to tell Dempster that if he hits free agency, he won't cost a pick and thus would get more money from a team that otherwise wouldn't have paid for shit because they feared losing that pick.

I think he wants a pony.

 

[CubbyBear2290]

Heck a haul for demp, if it gets through. I wonder whats actually holding it up getting Dempsters permission. Can't believe they are getting a top-50 or so prospect in the MLB for an expiring pitcher whom they could sign back at the end of this season if they really wanted to, hope this trade goes through.

 

[dabynsky]

Nightengale is saying that Dempster is the holdup on this. Hopefully this is just he needs time to process before he accepts a deal to a good place that should be a great fit for him and chance to up his stock before free agency.

 

[Rice Cube]

Nightengale is saying that Dempster is the holdup on this. Hopefully this is just he needs time to process before he accepts a deal to a good place that should be a great fit for him and chance to up his stock before free agency.

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[X]

Here's MLBTR's time-line:

3:30pm: The teams are awaiting Dempster's approval, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter).

2:57pm: Dempster is in the Cubs' clubhouse preparing for tonight's game in Pittsburgh, according to reporters, including Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune (on Twitter). He declined to discuss today's developments, Doug Padilla of ESPNChicago.com reports (on Twitter).

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports suggests the clubs could have an agreement or near-agreement (Twitter links). Convincing Dempster to accept the trade may be the final obstacle.

2:38pm: The Cubs haven't received Dempster's permission to complete a trade, David Kaplan of CSNChicago reports (on Twitter). "There is no trade," Dempster tweets via his foundation. "Don't know where this info came from!" Meanwhile, Goldstein hears that the deal is not done, but acknowledges that it might simply be delayed while MLB considers the financial side of the transaction (Twitter link).

1:51pm: Randall Delgado will be in the trade if it's completed, ESPN.com's Keith Law reports (on Twitter). The sides will also find a way to balance the money.

Delgado, 22, has started 17 games for the Braves this year, posting a 4.42 ERA with 7.2 K/9 and 4.1 BB/9 in 91 2/3 innings. The right-hander entered the season as the 46th-best prospect in MLB, according to Baseball America. His average fastball checks in at 92 mph, according to FanGraphs. Delgado has a ceiling as a number three starter in the Major Leagues, Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus writes (on Twitter).

1:22pm: The Braves and Cubs have agreed to a trade that will send Ryan Dempster to Atlanta, Mark Bowman of MLB.com reports (on Twitter). The right-hander can veto any trade, but he is not likely to demand an extension in order to approve the deal, according to Jon Heyman. Randall Delgado could be going to Chicago in the deal, Bowman adds.

Ryan Dempster - Cubs (PW)

Dempster, 35, has an NL-best 2.11 ERA with 7.1 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in 98 innings for the Cubs this year. He earns $14MM in 2012 -- more than $5.5MM between now and the end of the season -- but the Cubs are said to be willing to absorb salary to facilitate a deal.

The Braves won't be able to obtain draft pick compensation for Dempster even if he signs elsewhere after the season. In other words, he's strictly a rental unless the sides reach an extension between now and the end of the season. The Braves believe they'd have a good shot at re-signing Dempster, David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports (on Twitter). The Cubs would have been able to obtain one compensatory selection for losing Dempster if they had kept him for the remainder of the season and made him a qualifying offer.

Braves starters have combined for a 4.34 ERA with 7.0 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 so far this year. The team's rotation currently consists of Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, Mike Minor, Jair Jurrjens and newcomer Ben Sheets. Brandon Beachy and Arodys Vizcaino are out for the season with Tommy John surgery, which diminished the organization's internal options.

 

[CubbyBear2290]

Nightengale is saying that Dempster is the holdup on this. Hopefully this is just he needs time to process before he accepts a deal to a good place that should be a great fit for him and chance to up his stock before free agency.

your sig makes me giggle because I kept telling people the tigers were gonna put it together (wonder if they'll keep rolling or not), and I actually LOLed at your sig, thanks for helping make my day

 

[Rice Cube]

Flip a coin, Ryan. Heads, you go to Atlanta. Tails, you go anyway.

 

[dabynsky]

Len Kasper issued a denial of the rumor with this:

Demp still a Cub for now. Gotta love Twitter.

Gotta believe that the deal is done and that it is all on Demp.

 

[Rice Cube]

He's probably going to get a talking-to from the higher-ups at some point, not immediately though so as to not appear to be pressuring, but before his scheduled start on Wednesday for sure.

 

[DewsSox79]

wow at all of this


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[2SeamHeat]

Rival executives know the Braves are looking for pitching, which means Atlanta is up against extra-high asking prices, according to Passan. The Braves will acquire Ryan Dempster from the Cubs for Randall Delgado if Dempster approves the trade.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/brown-passan-on-olt-braves-morneau.html

 

[Rice Cube]

The Braves hold the second WC, while the Dodgers are half a game behind, so they can't really use the positioning angle to convince Demp to go to Atlanta.

 

[dabynsky]

He's probably going to get a talking-to from the higher-ups at some point, not immediately though so as to not appear to be pressuring, but before his scheduled start on Wednesday for sure.

That would sort of fit with what we "know". Dempster hasn't given (theoism) a list of teams he would accept for, and Dempster took a nap and woke up to his phone blowing up with the trade rumors. He denies it because he hasn't been approached about it because the Cubs had nothing to approach beyond what they've talked about. He gets to the ballpark tells everyone that there is nothing to talk about right now, and (theoism) will talk to him at some point to try to get his approval.

 

[dabynsky]

New tweet says that Dempster has told MLB Network that he has not been traded to the Braves but had some information "to digest". Certainly reads like what everyone is reporting is true and that Dempster just has to make the call. His wife earlier tweeted not to ask her and that she had no idea what was going on.