Schefter - Bagent Time? EDIT: vets request Bagent, failed CTE test BAGENTMAINA TAKES OVER CHICAGO

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If the Bears fail Caleb Williams, there is a 99% chance that they will be boycotted by every top QB prospect for at least the next decade, and I wouldn't blame them at all for it.
Do you mean those top QB prospects who are already successful in the NFL and are looking for 60+ million dollar-a-year contracts?

I am ok with that.

Most top college QB prospects don't really have that opportunity. Even Caleb understood that waiting it out in college for 10 million NIL deals was pretty asinine to the 10s of millions that a successful NFL QB could get, if they can even get 10 million.

Even a failed #1 pick can be successful and get 100s of millions with a new team, like Baker Mayfield, 35 and 45 million in 2025 and 2026.
 

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It's 10 games into his rookie season.

The attitude between players won't get better. Someone needs to go.
Condemn me for being a rookie and I get good I'm not forgetting that, I don't care how quiet it gets. This team has been lost if this report is true.
9 games in 10 weeks.
 
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For all we know, they said something like "Ya'll are going to get him killed. Bagent should play until the offensive line is healthy or the playcalling changes."
 

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So much drama and reading in. It's Football. If they want to give CW a short break and Bagent some reps, who gives a fuq? Granted, you need to do it in a way that indicates a break and reset for CW but so what? It's football, not emo girly boy ball. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

OMG, what if Bagent plays well? I expect meh with this OL but I can think of much worse problems to have. To be clear, I'm not advocating a change but also don't have issue with it if done right. If CW can't handle it, he may not have the temperament to lead anyway.
Funny how Bryce Young was benched, returned due to injury and now is on a 2 game winning streak.
 

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Funny how Bryce Young was benched, returned due to injury and now is on a 2 game winning streak.
I remember this one time in High School I was replaced in the middle of the game. I quit the sport and eventually dropped out of high school.
 

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I remember this one time in High School I was replaced in the middle of the game. I quit the sport and eventually dropped out of high school.
Well, you can head over to the Bears facility. Perhaps, the Bears play you over Caleb and Bagent.

Live your dream.
 

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Watch Days of Thunder and you will understand.

"50 laps your way and 50 laps my way and I will beat you"


Did Bagent teach Fields anything? No?
This isn't 50 your way, 50 my way. This is and was an OC calling 50 for this guy who's arm he believes in and 50 for that guy who's arm he doesn't believe in.

If you want Williams to learn the 50 my way you call the 50 my way. He's not out there in a car driving around on his own and watching someone drive a car isn't going to teach him where the braking points are.

Yes Williams is holding the ball too long because WRs are covered. Yes Williams is missing dump offs when the WRs are covered.
What you all are remembering from the backup UDFA QB is not the same thing.
When Waldron started calling quick dump offs like Bagent got that impressed you all Williams was doing it. So if that's what he needs to learn the OC needs to call it for Williams to do not have Williams watch Bagent do it.
 

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If they do this, I’m absolutely done. The fact that is even being mildly considered is mind numbing. You’re going to bench a rookie QB 10 games in because the HC and OC are completely incompetent? This would be a new low for the organization.
Cause for you Williams hasn’t been bad! Well,

 

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How so?

He literally “predicted” the most obvious thing that everyone saw coming.
Look at the timestamps - he's not predicting anything, he's a reporter who is wildly reliable and has been for a decade.
You calling anyone a moron is rather funny.

Go back and read the pre-draft threads, I saw this shit coming.

 

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Funny how Bryce Young was benched, returned due to injury and now is on a 2 game winning streak.
Big boy stuff or reality check and does it matter?
 

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You know what else I hate? That there's reports of players asking for Bagent. Don't care how minor or even if only a suggestion to try a reset. How dafuq does that get out of a well run locker room? Lets hope Brown is large and in charge unlike Shivering Shane who obviously lost the respect of his players.
 

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Although I agree, I see the Packers 19th in sacks, Bears 13th and the Giants 1st. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong.
No, you are correct. Someone on the CHGO podcast had said they led the league, they were off. Maybe they meant they will lead the league after this week 😊
 

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Big boy stuff or reality check and does it matter?
I am sure that the Panthers might feel a little bit better if Bryce turns the corner and becomes a real NFL QB, not just a joke.

For the Bears, it would make a lot of people feel better if Caleb somehow starts playing closer to the Caleb of the winning streak, win or lose, than the hot garbage that has been the post-bye week Caleb.

Funny how Flus and the boys decided that "The Change" needed to happen after the bye week is playing more like the week 1-3 Caleb than winning streak Caleb. It is not like the Bears were facing a gauntlet of juggernaut teams after the bye week.

Nice job, Flus & Friends. Way to kill any successful offensive calls found in the first 6 weeks.
 

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You know what else I hate? That there's reports of players asking for Bagent. Don't care how minor or even if only a suggestion to try a reset. How dafuq does that get out of a well run locker room? Lets hope Brown is large and in charge unlike Shivering Shane who obviously lost the respect of his players.
Starting to get the idea there is something about CW's personality that is rubbing the players the wrong way.
 

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Unless CW is hurt (which could happen, or be "manufactured") why in the hell would you do this? Jus to protect him with a bad OL? Scheme around it, you morons. And hey...maybe don't keep him in the game with 2 minutes left down by three scores. WTF?
 

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Unless CW is hurt (which could happen, or be "manufactured") why in the hell would you do this? Jus to protect him with a bad OL? Scheme around it, you morons. And hey...maybe don't keep him in the game with 2 minutes left down by three scores. WTF?
Brock Purdy says hi.
 

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Rookies throwing INT as they adjust to the speed of the NFL is pretty common, not having any control of where you are throwing is not.

Bagent has only started 4 games, Bo Nix had 1Td and 4INT his first 4 games and has since started to adjust to the speed and playing at a pretty high level.

Who knows if Bagent will play better or not. CW has played like total garbage so him sitting for a game or more might actually help him
Nix and the penix had the fastest times to get the ball out it will be interesting how they fare, caleb and jayden were about the same but jayden takes off running like a bat out of hell, caleb does better in games where he runs. I made a comment about considering Nix and everyone was laughing and he almost just beat KC....dude sees it and gets the ball out really fast which is the name of the game....caleb suddenly taking 4 and 5 seconds needs a perfect Oline
 

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