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Only issue I have is Lachavious reminds me of the Key and Peele football player name skit
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Nobody really knows how Jenkins will work out...
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In 2017 Trubisky was pegged by most everybody as the best QB in the class so really who gives a shit what "most everybody" says.
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This is how the Bears OL graded out on straight up pass blocks, no play action, roll out etc included.
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Pace started in 2015 with a serviceable LT in Leno and Pro Bowl RG in Kyle Long. In free agency 2016, he went out and signed Massie, who initially exceeded expectations, and Josh Sitton at G. He re-signed both tackles to extensions which ultimately didn't work out. Long became a perennial injury problem. Sitton was a stop gap.
Also in 2016, he drafted Whitehair in the 2nd round. He drafted Daniels in the 2nd in 2018. He traded up in the 2nd for Jenkins in 2021 and also drafted Borom in the 5th. Through his tenure, he added other depth with late picks and UDFAs.
Fan perception is all Pace did was that last part.
Obviously there's criticism warranted but can we stop beating this dead horse in a year where Pace aggressively addressed the line and bolstered depth?
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We just need him to do it again next year.
Daniels could be another Leno test case. If he is good enough, then lets not re-sign him like we did Leno and Massie. Lets go looking or just good, with no qualifiers.
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I agree. It feels like Pace should be moving on from desperation mode where he has more holes than picks and spends too freely in FA.
I want to see him continue to invest early picks to strengthen our core. Another OL next year in round 2 or 3 would be key to get the development cycle going up front.
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I feel like your opinion is based on antiquated ideas of the OL. Sure, you want the blind side of the QB protected by a good pass blocker, but plenty of teams put their best rusher over the right. The difference between what makes a stud RT or LT all but disappears in those circumstances.
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They are talking about drafting offensive linemen, far as that year goes, Bears only had one drafted player start those two years.
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The 3rd OL that got hurt, did so in the game before the Superbowl, in the 4th quarter too if I'm not mistaken. That was the move that ruined their depth, because they didn't have a backup capable of playing LT so they had to move guys to unnatural positions for the Superbowl.
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GM of the year boyz
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The post im replying to said built, so my mistake.
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Is he our center?
That was an oline heavy draft. Spending a 2nd on a center who can't play the position is a failed pick. That doesn't mean the player is a failure but the pick was.
The fact that they tried him at center shows he wasn't drafted to be a guard, that is where he is because he sucks at center.
Other centers from that draft taken in the 3rd and 4th are listed as centers in the NFL. Centers taken in that draft who are guards are 5th and 6th rounders, oh yeah, and our 2nd. That is a failed pick.
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Meh. He started his career at Guard. So I dont get how he's a failed pick at center when he started there
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You mean career in the NFL, because he was a starting center in college. That's probably the biggest twisted rationalization I've ever heard. How about all our career practice squad players, those must all be great picks because they start their careers on the PS not that they couldn't hang to make the team at the position they were drafted for.
Obviously Whitehair wasn't our anointed center. Daniels wasn't drafted to be a guard so our guard playing center could continue playing center since we're trying to get him out of the center position.
That is nothing bad about Daniels on oline. That is about Pace used a 2nd rounder to get a center but only got a guard. Meanwhile centers taken lower did stick as centers. The pick was wasted by Pace.
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Yeah, I know that.
So, answer the question.
You said he did not solve the problem, he only delayed action.
How so?
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Wait - they lost their starting tackles immediately before the Super Bowl and the replacements got beaten so badly, they got killed by Tampa.
And that counts as depth?
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If we could go 2/3 on the OL of guys stepping up and grabbing jobs, that would be a big win.
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