Starlin Castro's Error Tracker (2014 Edition!)

[Boobaby1]

Castro has errors but his defensive peripherals have been so much better this year. His range factor is way above average. Don't get me wrong. Castro is an average defender but he has made some real good strides


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I hope he starts to excel and they trade him. If you are going to trade your ace (which will probably happen), then you are going to have to supplement that with beefing up your pitching in the minors. Castro would be good in that area.

We will see if that is an avenue they will explore.

 

[SilenceS]

I hope he starts to excel and they trade him. If you are going to trade your ace (which will probably happen), then you are going to have to supplement that with beefing up your pitching in the minors. Castro would be good in that area.

We will see if that is an avenue they will explore.

Why would you trade Castro? I would be more keen to trade some of our top prospects over him. He is proven and seems to be taken the next step with power and D.

Castro should not be batting 4th for a team but have you seen his line in the 4 spot?

He is batting .329 with a .378 OBP and over .540 SLG in the 4 spot. He has hit 4 homers in that spot as well. He also has only K'd 10 times in 74 at bats in that spot. He has straight up produced and is producing. He is still only 24 for the whole year. Castro is playing like an all star and on how shitty this team is should be complemented for wanting to play everyday and produce.

 

[Boobaby1]

Why would you trade Castro? I would be more keen to trade some of our top prospects over him. He is proven and seems to be taken the next step with power and D.

Castro should not be batting 4th for a team but have you seen his line in the 4 spot?

He is batting .329 with a .378 OBP and over .540 SLG in the 4 spot. He has hit 4 homers in that spot as well. He also has only K'd 10 times in 74 at bats in that spot. He has straight up produced and is producing. He is still only 24 for the whole year. Castro is playing like an all star and on how shitty this team is should be complemented for wanting to play everyday and produce.

All the more reason to trade him. Sell high.

The Cubs are a few years away from competing, and they are further away from pitching than position players. THEY NEED PITCHING!

I have a sneaky suspicion that the FO is leaning towards dealing him at some point.

 

[chibears55]

All the more reason to trade him. Sell high.

The Cubs are a few years away from competing, and they are further away from pitching than position players. THEY NEED PITCHING!

I have a sneaky suspicion that the FO is leaning towards dealing him at some point.

He just 24 YO.. even if it took 3 yrs to compete , hed still be just starting his prime Yrs.

Complaining about trading off guys in their 30s but are willing to deal a kid bthat 24 and talented and can improve based only on what seems to me is just hatred .

You only need 5 starters, they have at least 1 starter on staff now in wood, they have a few good ones in system, there going to be another solid foreign starter or 2 to try and sign in the next 2-3 yrs, and there always gonna be a good FA or trade option available.

So, there no rush or urgency in trading off a solid young talent like castro now to try and add pitching prospects that are gonna be just a couple yrs younger then him..

With Baez struggling and really no other options at SS now, I think trading away their best hitter is the last thing on their mind now

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[CSF77]

Lets see:

Baez: .142/.229/.255 In Iowa.
Alcantara: .270/.292/.474 In Iowa.

Ya they are not dominating the competition.

Best MI combo in Iowa:

Chris Valaika: .313/.397/.470
Logan Watkins .295/.386/.386

When the next gen DP combo can beat 2 non roster players in AAA then we are making progress.

Trade Castro...wow.

One thing I like to look at is a hitter BB%. Shows how they are mastering the strike zone.

10% is a decent goal.

Alcantara has 5 in 137 AB's. 3.6% BB rate. It really shows that he is not a complete hitter right now. Not really #2 hitter production.

Baez: 10 BB in 106 AB. Right at the 10% mark. He is SO too much at 45 but he is taking his walks at the right clip. He has a pretty good shot at surpassing his slump.

 

[CSF77]

The guy to watch is Bryant: 148 AB's 20 BB and 48 SO's. 13.5 BB rate and a 32.4% SO rate.

I really do believe they need to promote him up to Iowa very soon to get a taste of the pitching. Most pitchers in AAA has had major league exposure and it is a necessary step in a hitters evolution. The fact he is hitting .324/.422/.615 leading his league with 11 HR's just show cases that he is dominating another level of competition.

All said and done I believe Bryant will end up a better MLB player than Baez. More complete player. Baez has the better swing but Bryant is the better baseball player.

 

[brett05]

I traded him two plus years ago and got a #2/3 pitcher back.

 

[CSF77]

I traded him two plus years ago and got a #2/3 pitcher back.

lol

He has some holes to his game but honestly so does Alcantara. All Alcantara has going for himself is he is a SH. His BB rate at 3.6% to me is a red flag.

Carrer wise: BB%
2009: 11.6%
2010: 4.6%
2011: 4.3%
2012: 5.7%
2013: 18.4%***
2014: 3.6%

1st year the pitching is really not that good in the DOSL After that he has been at 5% except his 18% blip that put him into the top 100. Now that he has gone back to his normal 5% he is becoming another Junior Lake IMO.

 

[brett05]

A few things to consider...

Was Castro overppaid?
Is he producing to his contract?
Is a pitcher of similar quality worth more?
Which is easier to have?
Which is easier to replace?

 

[CSF77]

With Baez struggling and really no other options at SS now, I think trading away their best hitter is the last thing on their mind now

Rizzo: .873 OPS
Castro: .808 OPS.

Not even close. Rizzo is the best hitter on the team.

 

[CSF77]

A few things to consider...

Was Castro overppaid?
Is he producing to his contract?
Is a pitcher of similar quality worth more?
Which is easier to have?
Which is easier to replace?

I don't believe he is being over paid. He plays a premium spot on the field and is putting up a .291/.333/.475 line.

Looking at his career his 200 hit season he put up a .307/.341/.432 line. He is not far off from his best year. Power is up a little and I can see the pressure of having to drive in runs hitting 4 has a part in this.

I still see him as a #6 hitter in a line up but his contract is not far fetched for a player his age.

 

[SilenceS]

Hanley Ramirez wants a 130 million and hasnt played close to a full season of ball in 2 out of 3 years and has been bad in a lot of them. Castro is a bargain right now.

 

[brett05]

Hanley Ramirez wants a 130 million and hasnt played close to a full season of ball in 2 out of 3 years and has been bad in a lot of them. Castro is a bargain right now.

What you said is true and it has no correlation to the Castro contract.

Castro is a bargain? I dunno:
http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/mlb/average/shortstop/

 

[dabears253313]

What you said is true and it has no correlation to the Castro contract.

Castro is a bargain? I dunno:
http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/mlb/average/shortstop/

That can be considered a bargain considering the Cubs gave him the contract after two straight all star game appearances (in his early 20's)

I think Jhonny Peralta is overpaid.

 

[brett05]

That can be considered a bargain considering the Cubs gave him the contract after two straight all star game appearances (in his early 20's)

I think Jhonny Peralta is overpaid.

IIRC He was like the third thru fifth choice those years.

And I agree, Castro is not theonly overpaid one.

 

[Boobaby1]

He just 24 YO.. even if it took 3 yrs to compete , hed still be just starting his prime Yrs.

Complaining about trading off guys in their 30s but are willing to deal a kid bthat 24 and talented and can improve based only on what seems to me is just hatred .

You only need 5 starters, they have at least 1 starter on staff now in wood, they have a few good ones in system, there going to be another solid foreign starter or 2 to try and sign in the next 2-3 yrs, and there always gonna be a good FA or trade option available.

So, there no rush or urgency in trading off a solid young talent like castro now to try and add pitching prospects that are gonna be just a couple yrs younger then him..

With Baez struggling and really no other options at SS now, I think trading away their best hitter is the last thing on their mind now

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Hatred? Hardly.

You win with pitching if you don't know, and the Cubs have NONE in the minors that are anything close. You don't win with a free swinging, sub-defensive SS. How else are the Cubs going to gain pitching. You hope he gets hot and deal him. You can't keep trading your proven pitching for prospect pitching.

I would much rather have a light hitting SS that plays stellar defense, top-notch pitching, and have my bats elsewhere in the line-up.

Castro is in La-la land more often than not, and he is not someone you want to build your team around. The only player worthy of that right now would be Rizzo who seems to be more of a team leader.

If you want to dispute that, go right ahead, but quit making the excuses of him being just 24. You act as if he is going to suddenly grow up. He has had plenty of years, plenty of mentors, and still makes bine-headed mistakes.

Zebras don't change their stripes.

 

[diavolos]

Nothing new to report really.

Another error by Castro. 7 already on the year and we aren't even to Memorial Day.

Nice to see all those predictions of 13-19 errors were so accurate.

 

[diavolos]

Hatred? Hardly.

You win with pitching if you don't know, and the Cubs have NONE in the minors that are anything close. You don't win with a free swinging, sub-defensive SS. How else are the Cubs going to gain pitching. You hope he gets hot and deal him. You can't keep trading your proven pitching for prospect pitching.

I would much rather have a light hitting SS that plays stellar defense, top-notch pitching, and have my bats elsewhere in the line-up.

Castro is in La-la land more often than not, and he is not someone you want to build your team around. The only player worthy of that right now would be Rizzo who seems to be more of a team leader.

If you want to dispute that, go right ahead, but quit making the excuses of him being just 24. You act as if he is going to suddenly grow up. He has had plenty of years, plenty of mentors, and still makes bine-headed mistakes.

Zebras don't change their stripes.

to add...

defense up the middle, power on the corners, solid pitching wins many a baseball game.

 

[brett05]

Nothing new to report really.

Another error by Castro. 7 already on the year and we aren't even to Memorial Day.

Nice to see all those predictions of 13-19 errors were so accurate.

They re, he'll get traded

 

[SilenceS]

Lol yea, the Cubs have so many options at short with stellar D. ****, lets move Barney there. People dont mind stellar D with light hitting. That over .800 OPS doesnt look like he is all that light hitting this year. But, lets keep it that his one bad year is the player that Castro has always been. Not, the two all star games and 200 hit hitter. Sometimes I dont get people. They contradict themselves constantly. Also, do you know how much Castro makes this year? He is currently the third best hitting SS in the league. He sure is overpaid huh?