Teams that have a worse QB Situation

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Since I like to piggy back off your comments... I'll give you a chart... I just went back to 1960 given many of those QBs played during the Super Bowl era.
Of this list you have 4 QBs who are currently in the HOF, another one is guaranteed in Peyton Manning.

None have gone to Super Bowls since Eli Manning. Stafford and Newton do have multiple playoff appearances.

Of the busts:
Jack Concannon (which is probably because he ended up on the Bears)
Vinny Testeverde (though does have two pro bowls)
Jeff George
Tim Couch
David Carr
JaMarcus Russell

You could even throw Sam Bradford and Alex Smith in there thus far.

Correct. I just started with the '66 draft so I didn't get to the Namath year.
 

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Any idea what the % of #1 overall defensive picks failure rate is? Or any other offensive position other than QB?
Not first overall but here is a first round analysis:

Here is a position-by-position look at the number of Pro Bowl players from the first round of the last 10 drafts.

Quarterbacks: 9 of 30 = 30.0 percent

Running Backs: 8 of 27 = 29.6 percent

Wide Receivers: 10 of 37 = 27.0 percent

Tight Ends: 7 of 13 = 53.8 percent

Offensive Tackles: 8 of 37 = 21.6 percent

Centers: 3 of 7 = 42.8 percent

Guards: 3 of 7 = 42.8 percent

Defensive Ends: 7 of 41 = 17.0 percent

Defensive Tackles: 8 of 33 = 24.2 percent

Linebackers: 13 of 32 = 40.6 percent

Cornerbacks: 13 of 39 = 33.3 percent

Safeties: 9 of 16 = 56.2 percent

Here are first-round picks from the last 10 years who made more than one Pro Bowl appearance:

Quarterbacks: 6 of 30 = 20 percent

Running Backs: 4 of 27 = 14.8 percent

Wide Receivers: 4 of 37 = 10.8 percent

Tight Ends: 1 of 13 = 7.6 percent

Offensive Tackles: 5 of 37 = 13.5 percent

Centers: 2 of 7 = 28.5 percent

Guards: 3 of 7 = 42.8 percent

Defensive Ends: 4 of 41 = 9.7 percent

Defensive Tackles: 6 of 33 = 18.1 percent

Linebackers: 8 of 32 = 25.0 percent

Cornerbacks: 6 of 39 = 15.3 percent

Safeties: 6 of 16 = 37.5 percent
 

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Sorry bud, some of us just aren't afraid of Cutler excelling past what he has ever shown he is capable of, and thwarting the Bears from ever drafting a 1st round QB.
 

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Of the busts:
Jack Concannon (which is probably because he ended up on the Bears)
Vinny Testeverde (though does have two pro bowls)
Jeff George
Tim Couch
David Carr
JaMarcus Russell

You could even throw Sam Bradford and Alex Smith in there thus far.

Alex Smith may be the most under rated performer in the league.
From 2011-now, he has played some of the most mistake free football you will ever see.
75 tds, 26 ints in 50 or so games.
He has been literally perfect in the playoffs- 9 touchdowns and ZERO interceptions over 3 games.

He will not go apeshit throwing the ball all over the place, but he will certainly get it done when needed- He puts up 291 yards per game in his playoff games, and averages 33 ppg in his playoff games.

He is playing mistake free football week in and week out.
 

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Sorry bud, some of us just aren't afraid of Cutler excelling past what he has ever shown he is capable of, and thwarting the Bears from ever drafting a 1st round QB.

History says you should be...if not afraid then...at least slightly concerned or nervous

Whens the last time the Bears drafted a QB in the first round?
 

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History says you should be...if not afraid then...at least slightly concerned or nervous

Who's history? Pace's? Fox's? I hope it's not the Bears history, from under completely different personnel.
 

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History says you should be...if not afraid then...at least slightly concerned or nervous

Whens the last time the Bears drafted a QB in the first round?

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Is Jeff George a bust though? I know he never reached his potential, but he had a long career. I always categorized a "bust" as a players that not only didn't live up to expectations but were also likely out of the league in 3-5 years. Just wondering if I'm in the minority camp when it comes to this.
 

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Alex Smith may be the most under rated performer in the league.
From 2011-now, he has played some of the most mistake free football you will ever see.
75 tds, 26 ints in 50 or so games.
He has been literally perfect in the playoffs- 9 touchdowns and ZERO interceptions over 3 games.

He will not go apeshit throwing the ball all over the place, but he will certainly get it done when needed- He puts up 291 yards per game in his playoff games, and averages 33 ppg in his playoff games.

He is playing mistake free football week in and week out.

He went a whole season without throwing a TD to a WR. That's a little too safe.
 

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Who's history? Pace's? Fox's? I hope it's not the Bears history, from under completely different personnel.





oh yes it's been a long time, and the common denominator through it all was Cutler's fool's gold play. It could happen again.

we want Cutler to play well enough to be tradable but not so well that he convinces Fox/Pace to keep him around
 

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Is Jeff George a bust though? I know he never reached his potential, but he had a long career. I always categorized a "bust" as a players that not only didn't live up to expectations but we're also likely out of the league in 3-5 years. Just wondering if I'm in the minority camp when it comes to this.

He's not a bust of Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell proportions, but I'd still call him a bust.
 

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Haha, follow your own advice. I never said it was a lock. I don't think many are.

There are many that think Goff will save the franchise, despite the Bears probably not even being in a position to draft him. Many others have said countless times over the years that the Bears could draft a QB to come in and do as well as, or better than, Cutler.
 

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Is Jeff George a bust though? I know he never reached his potential, but he had a long career. I always categorized a "bust" as a players that not only didn't live up to expectations but were also likely out of the league in 3-5 years. Just wondering if I'm in the minority camp when it comes to this.

Bust for me is a guy who showed he definitely couldn't play in the league or handle himself in the league.

I don't count guys that got hurt as "busts"(Ki-Jana Carter) etc.

Bust to me is Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus, etc.

Did George live up to expectations? No. But he was in the NFL for a long time and ended up being very productive.

Not a bust IMO. Didn't live up to expectations perhaps but not a bust.
 

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Alex Smith may be the most under rated performer in the league.
From 2011-now, he has played some of the most mistake free football you will ever see.
75 tds, 26 ints in 50 or so games.
He has been literally perfect in the playoffs- 9 touchdowns and ZERO interceptions over 3 games.

He will not go apeshit throwing the ball all over the place, but he will certainly get it done when needed- He puts up 291 yards per game in his playoff games, and averages 33 ppg in his playoff games.

He is playing mistake free football week in and week out.
Point taken, this year he's off to a rough start though.

And yeah, never gaudy numbers in the regular season though those games against New Orleans and Indianapolis in the playoffs were something for sure.
 

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oh yes it's been a long time, and the common denominator through it all was Cutler's fool's gold play. It could happen again.

:obama::obama::obama::obama::obama::obama:

The common denominator was Cutler's youth and potential. He isn't young anymore and has a track record of mediocrity.
 

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:obama::obama::obama::obama::obama::obama:

The common denominator was Cutler's youth and potential. He isn't young anymore and has a track record of mediocrity.

I love how convinced you are that Pace will do what needs to be done regardless of any extenuating factors

I hope you're right
 

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He went a whole season without throwing a TD to a WR. That's a little too safe.

That was a bizarre anomaly last season, but the year before all systems were normal.

2014, although weird, can be justified- They had the #2 defense in the league in points allowed, and were 3rd in the league in rushing scores. Reid was playing Martyball all season.
That will normalize this year.
 

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