The Cubs Lounge: General Team/Franchise Discussion

[Captain Obvious]

I went to the game yesterday and its fucking sad, I think the Royals or Rays gets as many fans as we do now.

Where'd you sit?

 

[bobferg]

Can we all agree that Jeff Baker should hit 3rd vs lefties?

There is no better option on the roster.

Jeff Baker 2010 Batting Splits - Baseball-Reference.com

.350 vs lefties in 2010. The dude rakes them. F this leadoff stuff, put Reed Johnson in right field instead of Colvin or Fuku and bat him leadoff.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Can we all agree that Jeff Baker should hit 3rd vs lefties?

There is no better option on the roster.

Jeff Baker 2010 Batting Splits - Baseball-Reference.com

.350 vs lefties in 2010. The dude rakes them. F this leadoff stuff, put Reed Johnson in right field instead of Colvin or Fuku and bat him leadoff.

I'd rather see Soriano or Soto there. I don't see the problem with him hitting 1st. 1st gets the most PAs. What's wrong with that?

 

[bobferg]

I'd rather see Soriano or Soto there. I don't see the problem with him hitting 1st. 1st gets the most PAs. What's wrong with that?

Solo homer vs multi run bomb?

I would rather have Reed Johnson and Starlin Castro hit in front of him. as opposed to 8th spot and the pitcher.

 

[daddies3angels]

I like Baker in 1 hole against LHP..i think its time to see Reed though vs LHP...

 

[Captain Obvious]

Solo homer vs multi run bomb?

I would rather have Reed Johnson and Starlin Castro hit in front of him. as opposed to 8th spot and the pitcher.

Same goes for Soriano and Soto.

God no. Do not hit Reed Johnson first. God no.

 

[bobferg]

Reed has a .312 average and a .372 obp vs lefties in his career. this even counts his worthless shit years.

How is that not leadoff worthy? Better then whatever Colvin and Fuku can do vs lefties.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Reed has a .312 average and a .372 obp vs lefties in his career. this even counts his worthless shit years.

How is that not leadoff worthy? Better then whatever Colvin and Fuku can do vs lefties.

Last year he had a .790 OPS and .324 OBP. He's getting older. He's on the decline. There are much, much better options.

 

[bobferg]

Last year he had a .790 OPS and .324 OBP. He's getting older. He's on the decline. There are much, much better options.

Still better then Colvin and Fuku vs lefties.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Still better then Colvin and Fuku vs lefties.

Okay? I never said he didn't. Doesn't mean he should be hitting in the top 5.

 

[bobferg]

Okay? I never said he didn't. Doesn't mean he should be hitting in the top 5.

Vs lefties:

Reed at 1 and baker at 3 (replacing a lefty outfielder who can clearly not hit left handed pitching) > Baker at 1 and Byrd at 3

 

[Captain Obvious]

Vs lefties:

Reed at 1 and baker at 3 (replacing a lefty outfielder who can clearly not hit left handed pitching) > Baker at 1 and Byrd at 3

No. You do not put Reed at 1. He isn't as good as his career numbers. He should hit like 8th. Reed at 1 and Baker at 3 vs. Baker at 1 and Byrd at 3 is not that big of a difference. Not that Byrd should be hitting 3rd in the first place. Reed isn't as good as you think. Open your eyes. He's 34.

 

[DewsSox79]

Solo homer vs multi run bomb?
I would rather have Reed Johnson and Starlin Castro hit in front of him. as opposed to 8th spot and the pitcher.

 

[daddies3angels]

Whos getting the in game disscussion up for CHC vs HOU tonight?

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Whos getting the in game disscussion up for CHC vs HOU tonight?

Ill make it..

 

[DewsSox79]

No. You do not put Reed at 1. He isn't as good as his career numbers. He should hit like 8th. Reed at 1 and Baker at 3 vs. Baker at 1 and Byrd at 3 is not that big of a difference. Not that Byrd should be hitting 3rd in the first place. Reed isn't as good as you think. Open your eyes. He's 34.

:clap::clap:

but but he is grindy, and has fire and passion lol

 

[Jntg4]

Assume Milwaukee wins, we have 5 teams within 1 Game of 1st place, everyone except Houston. Cincy leads, everyone else is .500 (if Milwaukee wins), except Houston.

 

[waldo7239117]

The Cubs release catcher Max Ramirez. He was doing shit in the minors.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Hendry :gtfo:

 

[bleacherbum54]

Is it time for Cubs' youth movement? - Chicago Cubs Blog - ESPN Chicago

Is it time for the Cubs to go with a youth movement?

When you talk to Cubs fans, they’ll generally tell you that at this point they’d rather watch young players trying to compete than veterans struggling to find what’s left.

Bringing the Brett Jacksons and Trey McNutts of the world to the big leagues seems like a simple process, however it’s important that the Cubs develop future stars like Jackson and McNutt before they start their major league careers.

Trading off veteran players also is not quite as easy a process as the fans, or even the media, perceive it to be. With multi-year deals and no-trade clauses, some contracts – like Alfonso Soriano’s – are almost impossible to move unless the player himself asks to be traded. Contracts such as the aforementioned Soriano, Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Zambrano would take player’s consent in order to trade.

As general manager Jim Hendry found out in 2010, even when you think you have a deal, the player must go along with the concept. Last July Hendry had a trade in place with the Angels for first baseman Derrek Lee. After taking almost a week to decide, Lee turned down the request and invoked his no-trade clause. In August the Cubs approached Lee a second time about the Atlanta Braves’ interest in a trade. This time Lee agreed and the trade was consummated.

With the recent rash of injuries to players like Andrew Cashner, Randy Wells, Matt Garza and Marlon Byrd, the Cubs are unable to make trades from a position of strength. Byrd will be out an extended period of time, Cashner’s rehab will be a minimum of six to eight weeks, and at this moment it’s unknown how much time Garza will miss. As for the youth movement itself, Jackson has missed almost three weeks recovering from a severely bruised left pinky finger. After rehabbing at the Cubs’ minor league camp in Mesa, Ariz., he’s just returning to action at Double-A Tennessee.

The Cubs do have some good-looking young players in the minor leagues who should make it to the majors at some point. You’re already watching good young talent like shortstop Starlin Castro and second baseman Darwin Barney, and Wellington Castillo behind the plate looks like a keeper as well. However, considering a wholesale sell-off of veteran players at this time would probably be ill-advised unless you, the fan, are prepared to watch the Chicago Cubs develop like the Pittsburgh Pirates and Kansas City Royals have tried to over the last two decades.

Tom Ricketts and his family are trying to do two things at once – compete for a World Series and develop young players. Unfortunately, at this point only the latter is working.

I hope we do go with a total youth movement