The Rooney Rule

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Possibly because you don't have a deep history of oppression borne out of complete dehumanization.

This. Mexico is one of the most diverse countries in the world and doesn’t have the history of violence and dehumanization that that the US does.
 

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Coming from a fuckwit that claimed Mexicans haven't suffered any oppression or dehumanization in U.S. history...that is a joke. Learn something.

Both of you clowns.
 

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Coming from a fuckwit that claimed Mexicans haven't suffered any oppression or dehumanization in U.S. history...that is a joke. Learn something.

Both of you clowns.

Mexicans have also been oppressed and often even tricked in the US to side against their interests and fight against their fellow people of color due to divisive racial politics created by Europeans and the rich to exploit them.
 

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To me, not only is there no question that the Raiders broke this rule, they were amazingly brazen about it.

Until the rule is changed, the Raiders should be investigated, and if it is found that they broke the rule (imo, they did) they should be punished accordingly.

Yeah....Right after the Packers are punished for putting Rogers on IR. Don't hold your breath.
 

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Coming from a fuckwit that claimed Mexicans haven't suffered any oppression or dehumanization in U.S. history...that is a joke. Learn something.

Both of you clowns.

You wondered why black people get to throw the race card around more than you (in our society).

The answer is because they were property in this country, went through the Jim Crow era, and were only given civil rights a half century ago, along with being the most socioeconomically downtrodden demographic in the country.

I'm sorry if you don't like that, but that's what it is.
 

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Mexicans have also been oppressed and often even tricked in the US to side against their interests and fight against their fellow people of color due to divisive racial politics created by Europeans and the rich to exploit them.

Mexico, the actual country and peoples, have never stopped getting bent over and fucked since the day the Spanish landed in the gulf. By the way, no one has ever been tricked. Its always been a history of corruption at the top levels of leadership and government making shit deals that line their pockets at the benefit of their trade partners and the detriment of the people. Always has been this way and to this day nothing has changed. Its only become worse and even more systematic. Its downright depressing, shameful and embarrassing. I genuinely wish the people would pull the government officials out to the streets and shoot them. It would be the only damn way of ending it. There are so few truly inspiring and genuine politicians in Mexico and they're all young intellectuals that try as hard as they do to climb up in power and influence are just railroaded by the entrenched politicians keeping the status quo.
 

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You wondered why black people get to throw the race card around more than you (in our society).

The answer is because they were property in this country, went through the Jim Crow era, and were only given civil rights a half century ago, along with being the more socioeconomically downtrodden demographic in the country.

I'm sorry if you don't like that, but that's what it is.

Sorry but that is a load of shit by current standards. How does every group of peoples in this country become more advantaged and less downtrodden? Simple. Political representation. Pray tell. How many African Americans are there in government versus Mexican American?
 

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i don't dislike the hiring of Helfrich,but he's an example of why the Rooney Rule is necessary. When a white dude with ZERO NFL experience can get an OC job over minorities who've been offensive position coaches forever.....

While I like the Rooney rule, the implication you just made is that our GM and HC are racists. What exactly are you trying to say here?
 

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Look, I am a white male but for what it's worth, I am a Paraplegic. I've been paralyzed waist-down since I was 12 yrs old from a Motocross accident during a race. I'm 29 now and in Real Estate but along the way I've had many job interviews. If I ever knew that I was only being interviewed because I'm in a wheelchair, it would anger me. I would feel like it's a waste of my time and they aren't taking me seriously. I have the most open and chill sense of humor about the chair (just look at my username) but when it comes to my profession I want to know I'm getting a job simply because I'm the best person for the job and nothing else. If there was something like a "Christopher Reeves Rule" I would be totally opposed to it. That's just my personal opinion.

I understand the point of the Rooney rule, but I can't help but feel like it's now hurting Minorities.
 

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Mexico, the actual country and peoples, have never stopped getting bent over and fucked since the day the Spanish landed in the gulf. By the way, no one has ever been tricked. Its always been a history of corruption at the top levels of leadership and government making shit deals that line their pockets at the benefit of their trade partners and the detriment of the people. Always has been this way and to this day nothing has changed. Its only become worse and even more systematic. Its downright depressing, shameful and embarrassing. I genuinely wish the people would pull the government officials out to the streets and shoot them. It would be the only damn way of ending it. There are so few truly inspiring and genuine politicians in Mexico and they're all young intellectuals that try as hard as they do to climb up in power and influence are just railroaded by the entrenched politicians keeping the status quo.
Because of the corrupt policies brought by the Spanish. The Natives didn’t know of any of those problems before Europeans arrived.
 

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While I like the Rooney rule, the implication you just made is that our GM and HC are racists. What exactly are you trying to say here?

He is saying that you're supposed to give jobs now simply based on color of skin instead of how good they are at their jobs. Duh.
 

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and too polysyllabic for you.

pol·y·syl·lab·ic Wow. I am so not impressed. Just pointing out the truth. Even MSNBC is to conservative for you. I thought you wore that badge with pride.
 

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asian coaches?

all we got to hang our hat on is norm chow, and he's coaching high school right now.
 

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Because of the corrupt policies brought by the Spanish. The Natives didn’t know of any of those problems before Europeans arrived.

Well in that case you're reaching as far back as a people that weren't "free" to begin with. I was making reference to the time since Mexico's independence from Spain there. That would be like saying north american native americans were tricked by europeans into giving up valuable goods for garbage. Ignorance is ignorance. Nothing has ever changed there.
 
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Does anyone else think this rule is stupid?

For example: The Raiders are now being investigated to see if they fully complied with the rule. Honestly, the Raiders have been wanting Gruden for years... now that he finally decided to come back to coaching, it was pretty much a given that he was going to get hired by the Raiders. Why should they have to interview two minority candidates, or any other candidate for that matter? They know who they're going to hire. If I was a minority candidate, I'd feel like I was wasting my time or being used to fulfil a stupid rule just so the guy they wanna hire anyway will get get hired without a hitch.

Not only that, but what if, hypothetically, a team just doesn't have a minority candidate interested in the HC job? Does the team have to force one to interview?

If a team doesn't want to hire a minority candidate, for whatever reason, this rule doesn't even mean they will or have to. They just have to interview them, then they can hire whoever they want to anyway.

What the hell's the point?

What do you mean what the hell is the point? You really that ignorant?

That fact that this is even rule should tell people something about the NFL owners/GMs
 

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Sorry but that is a load of shit by current standards. How does every group of peoples in this country become more advantaged and less downtrodden? Simple. Political representation.

Not so simple. Do you have examples of African American representation in Congress making a considerable difference to the socioeconomic status of the race as a whole? There's a strong line of thought to the contrary, that African American politicians have worsened their position through more reliance on the welfare state (not saying that's an opinion I personally share, but many do).

Politicians serve their wealthy and corporate donors; they make no difference to the plight of average people, regardless of race.
 

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pol·y·syl·lab·ic Wow. I am so not impressed. Just pointing out the truth. Even MSNBC is to conservative for you. I thought you wore that badge with pride.

None of them are too conservative for me, they're all too corporatist. Not that you will understand because you think in pure binary when it comes to politics, but many of my social views are far to the right of anything you'd see on MSNBC.
 

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Not so simple. Do you have examples of African American representation in Congress making a considerable difference to the socioeconomic status of the race as a whole? There's a strong line of thought to the contrary, that African American politicians have worsened their position through more reliance on the welfare state (not saying that's an opinion I personally share, but many do).

Politicians serve their wealthy and corporate donors; they make no difference to the plight of average people, regardless of race.

You do realize political representation goes all the way down to a city ward level. I am not even kidding when I say there are very few Mexican Americans at any level of government.
 

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