The Ultimate " So Its 2016 Now" Thread

[Jntg4]

Of the 93 games Baltimore won, they were 29-9 in 1 run games. That's not happening again.

Cubs are nowhere near that. Baltimore could knock in runs when they were on 2nd base. They advanced runners, and they played their good players who produced instead of benching them like Sveum does for the sake of lefty-righty matchups. Their bullpen didnt suck, and they didnt have a braindead manager who kept riding shitty bullpen players.

I like to think that makes a difference

Exactly, it won't happen again, yet you all like to keep bringing it up

 

[KBisBack!]

Exactly, it won't happen again, yet you all like to keep bringing it up

29-9 in one run games likely won't happen again.

But teams going from 90 losses to the playoffs happens far more often then fits into your agenda and rarely is accomplished by a group of prospects coming up and turning the team around.

Cubs lost 96 games in 2006 and resigned A-Ram to a big contract and signed Soriano to a huge FA deal.

They made the playoffs the next two years.

Whoops.

But when you grow up and have kids of your own, you go right ahead and install the values that it is better to not try if something seems hard or unlikely to happen. That it is better to just give up and not even try. Let someone else do it instead. I am sure they will grow up to be productive members of society.

 

[Jntg4]

29-9 in one run games likely won't happen again.

But teams going from 90 losses to the playoffs happens far more often then fits into your agenda and rarely is accomplished by a group of prospects coming up and turning the team around.

Cubs lost 96 games in 2006 and resigned A-Ram to a big contract and signed Soriano to a huge FA deal.

They made the playoffs the next two years.

Whoops.

But when you grow up and have kids of your own, you go right ahead and install the values that it is better to not try if something seems hard or unlikely to happen. That it is better to just give up and not even try. Let someone else do it instead. I am sure they will grow up to be productive members of society.

I don't give a shit what you teach your kids.

 

[KBisBack!]

I don't give a shit what you teach your kids.

As usual you ignore the main, factual part of the post because you have no response to actual logic and intelligence.

Stay classy.

 

[Jntg4]

As usual you ignore the main, factual part of the post because you have no response to actual logic and intelligence.

Stay classy.

Out of curiosity, why are you here anyway if your teams are the Broncos, Flyers, Blues, Royals, and Sporting? Are you a Royals fan or a Cubs fan more?

 

[mountsalami]

KB is definitely a die-hard Cubs fan.

What we don't like is the FACT that this new group of retards likes to say whatever is convenient at the time.

We also don't like the infestation of garbage players signed.

We also don't like watching losing baseball when the promise from both the lips of Thoyer was the goal is to win the WS each and every year.

SAID NUMEROUS TIMES BY BOTH.

Recently FailStein puffed out his chest and stated that he had to make these "big changes" (comical) to the roster because it wasn't performing.

All he did was sprinkle more powdered sugar on the turd he created to begin with.

A real hard nosed baffoon if you ask me.

 

[mountsalami]

FailStein hasn't shit one solid turd since he's been hired.

All he's been shitting is Ragu and half of it ends up on his back from the pure hot air before it.

 

[KBisBack!]

Out of curiosity, why are you here anyway if your teams are the Broncos, Flyers, Blues, Royals, and Sporting? Are you a Royals fan or a Cubs fan more?

Seeing as this is a CUBS board, I figured it was obvious that I would be a Cubs fan. Sorry that was too complicated for you.

Since there are only six icons that can be chosen does that mean I can only root for six teams??

Really?? You got crushed on every baseball point brought up so you have to question what teams I root for like a five year old?

 

[SilenceS]

I will say this about the Cubs right now. Yes, we have been fed some garbage and have not been treated to very good players but theres one thing I think can happen soon. I think this rotation could be setting up to be a monster with one key, David Price. it is going to cost a good bit to get him but I think the Cubs are going to go hard after him. Now, think about this rotation. Price, Shark, Garza, Jackson, and either Appel or Gray. Talk about a dynamite rotation. Thats a type of rotation that could dominate on a regular basis. The Cubs are really positioning themselves for this. I have read many of baseball minds that think the Cubs are one of the leaders for Price soon. Now, Garza could be traded but if it is for some good prospects that could help us land Price then I have no problem with it. We can find someone to maybe not completely replace Garza, but still be a functional major league pitcher. By then, the Cubs lineup should be a serviceable lineup. I am not saying a juggernaut or even real good just serviceable. I am a big believer that the Cubs will find hitters out of the minors. Im not talking just top prospects. I am talking a pipeline. I do see some sunshine coming. It just sucks that its going to take a couple of years. I also have another belief behind why the Cubs will go after Price. They will want a superstar to go with the new Wrigley. It will sell tickets. It could be a big PR campaign. Ricketts loves money and it would make a **** ton.

 

[patg006]

I will say this about the Cubs right now. Yes, we have been fed some garbage and have not been treated to very good players but theres one thing I think can happen soon. I think this rotation could be setting up to be a monster with one key, David Price. it is going to cost a good bit to get him but I think the Cubs are going to go hard after him. Now, think about this rotation. Price, Shark, Garza, Jackson, and either Appel or Gray. Talk about a dynamite rotation. Thats a type of rotation that could dominate on a regular basis. The Cubs are really positioning themselves for this. I have read many of baseball minds that think the Cubs are one of the leaders for Price soon. Now, Garza could be traded but if it is for some good prospects that could help us land Price then I have no problem with it. We can find someone to maybe not completely replace Garza, but still be a functional major league pitcher. By then, the Cubs lineup should be a serviceable lineup. I am not saying a juggernaut or even real good just serviceable. I am a big believer that the Cubs will find hitters out of the minors. Im not talking just top prospects. I am talking a pipeline. I do see some sunshine coming. It just sucks that its going to take a couple of years. I also have another belief behind why the Cubs will go after Price. They will want a superstar to go with the new Wrigley. It will sell tickets. It could be a big PR campaign. Ricketts loves money and it would make a **** ton.

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[mountsalami]

I will say this about the Cubs right now. Yes, we have been fed some garbage and have not been treated to very good players but theres one thing I think can happen soon. I think this rotation could be setting up to be a monster with one key, David Price. it is going to cost a good bit to get him but I think the Cubs are going to go hard after him. Now, think about this rotation. Price, Shark, Garza, Jackson, and either Appel or Gray. Talk about a dynamite rotation. Thats a type of rotation that could dominate on a regular basis. The Cubs are really positioning themselves for this. I have read many of baseball minds that think the Cubs are one of the leaders for Price soon. Now, Garza could be traded but if it is for some good prospects that could help us land Price then I have no problem with it. We can find someone to maybe not completely replace Garza, but still be a functional major league pitcher. By then, the Cubs lineup should be a serviceable lineup. I am not saying a juggernaut or even real good just serviceable. I am a big believer that the Cubs will find hitters out of the minors. Im not talking just top prospects. I am talking a pipeline. I do see some sunshine coming. It just sucks that its going to take a couple of years. I also have another belief behind why the Cubs will go after Price. They will want a superstar to go with the new Wrigley. It will sell tickets. It could be a big PR campaign. Ricketts loves money and it would make a **** ton.

I'm not a firm believer that the Cubs are going to go after Price with a full deck of cards. Although Price would be a nice catch. He doesn't get my toe a tappin as much as Fielder would have. I know it's hindsight, but if they would have signed Fielder, they wouldn't have had to give up anything for him but some cash.

This team needs some bats or all the pitching in the world will get us nowhere. I don't want to hear about the Giants, it's a whole different scenario. The team also needs some guys that can throw fire in the 8th and 9th innings.

Price alone does nothing for me unless they add some other equally talented players to surround him. They did NOTHING this year.

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that the team build around whether or not we get Price. He should compliment an already good team not be the foundation that activates the signings of other core free agents, a year or two afterwards.

If they are eyeing someone like Price. Then they should have signed Fielder last year and added players like BJ Upton, Nick Swisher, and a Mark Reynolds this one. Notice that they would still have the prospects available.

The only big PR campaign (and it seems to be working just fine as of now) is the new "Cubs Way" book of basics and the players Theo has brought to the team to tow the line. Even if it's for only for three months on a one year contract. Players worshipping that manual alone should provide an extra "umph" to other teams that trade with the Cubs.

 

[Jntg4]

Seeing as this is a CUBS board, I figured it was obvious that I would be a Cubs fan. Sorry that was too complicated for you.

Since there are only six icons that can be chosen does that mean I can only root for six teams??

Really?? You got crushed on every baseball point brought up so you have to question what teams I root for like a five year old?

Calm down, I was asking since you have a lot of non-Chicago teams if you liked the Cubs or Royals more since you had them there instead.

Ya, I've been crushed

I will say this about the Cubs right now. Yes, we have been fed some garbage and have not been treated to very good players but theres one thing I think can happen soon. I think this rotation could be setting up to be a monster with one key, David Price. it is going to cost a good bit to get him but I think the Cubs are going to go hard after him. Now, think about this rotation. Price, Shark, Garza, Jackson, and either Appel or Gray. Talk about a dynamite rotation. Thats a type of rotation that could dominate on a regular basis. The Cubs are really positioning themselves for this. I have read many of baseball minds that think the Cubs are one of the leaders for Price soon. Now, Garza could be traded but if it is for some good prospects that could help us land Price then I have no problem with it. We can find someone to maybe not completely replace Garza, but still be a functional major league pitcher. By then, the Cubs lineup should be a serviceable lineup. I am not saying a juggernaut or even real good just serviceable. I am a big believer that the Cubs will find hitters out of the minors. Im not talking just top prospects. I am talking a pipeline. I do see some sunshine coming. It just sucks that its going to take a couple of years. I also have another belief behind why the Cubs will go after Price. They will want a superstar to go with the new Wrigley. It will sell tickets. It could be a big PR campaign. Ricketts loves money and it would make a **** ton.

Exactly, I don't think there is a single person here that doesn't expect this to happen or doesn't want it to. We have reason to believe that the evil worthless front office the new guys speak of wants him too.

 

[mountsalami]

OOPs....I forgot





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[Jntg4]

I'm not a firm believer that the Cubs are going to go after Price with a full deck of cards. Although Price would be a nice catch. He doesn't get my toe a tappin as much as Fielder would have. I know it's hindsight, but if they would have signed Fielder, they wouldn't have had to give up anything for him but some cash.

This team needs some bats or all the pitching in the world will get us nowhere. I don't want to hear about the Giants, it's a whole dirrerent scenario. The team needs some guys that can throw fire in the 8th and 9th innings.

Price alone does nothing for me unless they add some other equally talented players to surround him. They did NOTHING this year.

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that the team build around whether or not we get Price. He should compliment an already good team not be the foundation that activates the signings of other core free agents, a year or two afterwards.

If they are eyeing someone like Price. Then they should have signed Fielder last year and added players like BJ Upton, Nick Swisher, and a Mark Reynolds this one.

The only big PR campaign (and it seems to be working just fine as of now) is the new "Cubs Way" book of basics and the players Theo has brought to the team to tow the line. Even if it's for only for three months on a one year contract. Players worshipping that manual alone should provide an extra "umph" to other teams that trade with the Cubs.

How do we know they didn't try to sign him? We were supposedly in on him... perhaps maybe he didn't want to come here... Money is a huge factor, but it is not everything.

And when you said Price should be acquired to compliment an already good team as opposed to be someone to build around, are you saying you wouldn't wnat us to get him if we aren't already good?

 

[Jntg4]

OOPs....I forgot





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[patg006]

Exactly, I don't think there is a single person here that doesn't expect this to happen or doesn't want it to. We have reason to believe that the evil worthless front office the new guys speak of wants him too.

Well its settled, Jntg says its true, thus Salami and Boyd; seems we should just toughen up and wait for 2016's rewarding journey, expecting Jntg's plan........what? We have IQ's over 5?

uke:

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[Jntg4]

Well its settled, Jntg says its true, thus Salami and Boyd; seems we should just toughen up and wait for 2016's rewarding journey, expecting Jntg's plan........what? We have IQ's over 5?

uke:

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Oh, so Epstein doesn't get enough quality players and now you don't want us to chase Price? Interesting.

 

[mountsalami]

How do we know they didn't try to sign him?

They low-balled him from what I read. Although I'm sure it's speculation. My feelings are it's probably not far from the truth. I don't see him wearing a Cubs' uniform.

I don't suppose Aramis Ramirez would have mentioned the fact publicly that the Cubs were going to basically field a loser and didn't see a future on this team during an alledged rebuild.

are you saying you wouldn't wnat us to get him if we aren't already good?

Not if we are going to deplete your precious farm system that ranks so high by Keith Law after only one offseason. I mean we have a dynasty forming before our very eyes.

Apparently you didn't read my post.

I would prefer to have some players here on a team ready to go. NOT add Price and wait to see what's available one, two, or, three years down the road. remember it's going to take a small fortune of your precious farm system to nab him.

Or is the farm not really that important and we shouldn't have signed REAL F/A the last two offseasons, because we weren't going to compete anyway.

 

[SilenceS]

I'm not a firm believer that the Cubs are going to go after Price with a full deck of cards. Although Price would be a nice catch. He doesn't get my toe a tappin as much as Fielder would have. I know it's hindsight, but if they would have signed Fielder, they wouldn't have had to give up anything for him but some cash.

This team needs some bats or all the pitching in the world will get us nowhere. I don't want to hear about the Giants, it's a whole different scenario. The team needs some guys that can throw fire in the 8th and 9th innings.

Price alone does nothing for me unless they add some other equally talented players to surround him. They did NOTHING this year.

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that the team build around whether or not we get Price. He should compliment an already good team not be the foundation that activates the signings of other core free agents, a year or two afterwards.

If they are eyeing someone like Price. Then they should have signed Fielder last year and added players like BJ Upton, Nick Swisher, and a Mark Reynolds this one.

The only big PR campaign (and it seems to be working just fine as of now) is the new "Cubs Way" book of basics and the players Theo has brought to the team to tow the line. Even if it's for only for three months on a one year contract. Players worshipping that manual alone should provide an extra "umph" to other teams that trade with the Cubs.

Buster Olney just had a whole thing about the Cubs and Red Sox being front runners when Price become available. He actually thinks that the Cardinals have the fire power to blow everyone out of the water on a package deal but he doesnt think they would open up the checkbook to get involved. He says the Cubs are by far in the best shape to pay him.

I think you underestimate what a true Ace can do for a team. I think Price impact on the team would be far greater than Fielder. I know. I know. Pitchers only pitch every 5th day, but we are in a different style of baseball now a days. Post season is dominated by pitching. Thats why I believe a true elite ace is so important. Add in the fact that Shark just continues to grow and impress. Them two right there could be a nastier tandem then Prior and Wood ever were. Im over not signing Fielder. It would have been a much bigger risk for an NL team to sign him then a AL team. That DH makes a big difference and I think it is completely unfair that the AL has a leg up because of that. You know the Tigers felt comfortable because they have that DH to fall back on. I like Fielder and would have liked him in Cubbie blue, but the AL had the clear advantage to sign him.

As for the lineup, I think you can pencil in Rizzo, Castro, and Castillo for the foreseeable future barring injury. Soler is coming sooner then people think. The Cubs are saving him a spot and I can see that coming. I am not saying they are completely going to rush him, but I think with the money invested he is going to be on a much faster track. He is wearing out Daytona right now. He could make it to AAA by this year. He would def. start next year in AAA. I know its a risk, but you have to think of Soler as a FA acquisition because of the money. The Cubs are not going to block him. Hence, Nate the great. By the way, I hope he continues to rake because a left handed hitter with a cannon for an arm in RF would be great trade bait at the deadline for a contender. Baez is going to be slower coming through because he has more fine tuning to do because of his aggressiveness. This is where I do not know what the Cubs will do. He has to be the third baseman of the future, but you are going to have to address it sooner rather than later. They have to get someone there that can hit until Baez is ready or some young kid is ready to take the position. I truly believe when some of the kids are ready they will anchor it with Price. I think it would be an exciting team to watch. This is just my theory on what I see going on and the possible options they have going.

 

[Jntg4]

They low-balled him from what I read. Although I'm sure it's speculation. My feelings are it's probably not far from the truth. I don't see him wearing a Cubs' uniform.

I don't suppose Aramis Ramirez would have mentioned the fact that the Cubs were going to basically field a loser and didn't see a future on this team during an alledged rebuild.




Not if we are going to deplete your precious farm system that ranks so high by Keith Law after only one offseason. I mean we have a dynasty forming before our very eyes.

Apparently you didn't read my post.

I would prefer to have some players here on a team ready to go. NOT add Price and wait to see what's available one, two, or, three years down the road. remember it's going to take a small fortune of your precious farm system to nab him.

Or is the farm not really that important and we shouldn't have signed REAL F/A the last two offseasons, because we weren't going to compete anyway.

Keith Law sucks...

Price is someone I am willing to deal a lot of our better prospects for, players like him don't come around all that often. But would I trade Baez or Soler or Almora, etc. for someone of a calibur closer to that of Brandon Phillips for example? No, not because he's not good, but because they could be used to acquire something better or we could continue to develop them. It has to be the right player and the right value IMO.