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Move Baez, and you are completely screwed if Russell gets hurt.
Move Baez, and you are completely screwed if Russell gets hurt.
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Contreras is going to play 80% of the time and honestly I'm thinking they give the 20% to Schwarber next year. But right now Schwarber is not that guy and add to it he has not had a whole year to be in sync with the staff.
So I can see why they want a vet to come in as a back up right now. Add to it there is no place long term for Victor Caratini . The more he sits the less his value becomes. His bat is starter quality and from what we have seen he is a starting quality catcher also.
As far as a high leverage lefty...I guess it would be nice. I just don't see that "guy" on the market.
Prediction: A.J. Ellis at a min. Straily would be somewhat entertaining due to him being a ex-Cub and all before he broke out. Not sure what I feel about him honestly.
But he comes with all of his Arb years intact so that bit would push up his value.
Honestly I would be fine with Candy and Victor for Ellis and Straily. Toss in Clifton or Underwood but not Tseng or Alzolay.
So I can see why they want a vet to come in as a back up right now. Add to it there is no place long term for Victor Caratini . The more he sits the less his value becomes. His bat is starter quality and from what we have seen he is a starting quality catcher also.
As far as a high leverage lefty...I guess it would be nice. I just don't see that "guy" on the market.
Prediction: A.J. Ellis at a min. Straily would be somewhat entertaining due to him being a ex-Cub and all before he broke out. Not sure what I feel about him honestly.
But he comes with all of his Arb years intact so that bit would push up his value.
Honestly I would be fine with Candy and Victor for Ellis and Straily. Toss in Clifton or Underwood but not Tseng or Alzolay.
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If we go into a season with Schwarber as backup catcher, we can plan on having October off.
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Nope....
Let Erase Schwarber as a catcher from yours or anybody mind..
Not ever going to happen
He has other things to work on in Off season.. like making better contact with the bat
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If your Oct is pending on a back up catcher than you are doing it wrong to start
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The scenario posted has him catching 20% of the time (which in itself is crazy, as backups dont cstch that often even when they can catch)
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Contreras and Schwarber came up together and Swapped C and LF. This is not inventing the wheel with them. Just match up Schwarber with 1 guy per week. Not really a big issue here.
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Not really. They were at AA together. I don't think they were at A+ together. While they did swap C it was DH and C as there's a DH to play with. I'm nitpicking here. As for Schwarber as a C, think you'd have to still go with 3 catchers one being a purely defensive guy. You'd maybe get away with starting Schwarber one game a week but that's probably pushing it.
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No matter how many times you post it, Schwarber is not a major league catcher. Not even close.
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Na they were swapping LF. That is why they started Contreras in left and Schwarber went to LF.
Like I said. If it was a 50/50 split I would be against it just because Contreras is the heart beat. But 1 game per week is really not a major issue. Add to it it adds another person to the 25 vs a deadbeat pine sitter.
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It's 26 games a year. That's a ton. (And you started at 20%, which is 32 games)
We can stop discussing it. It will never happen. No chance.
And why would we want to get Contreras out of the game 32 times? Rest, sure. But that's excessive.
And before you respond that Contreras could play LF in some gsmes when Schwarber carches....stop. That is nonsensical.
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Except you're wrong. Conteras has only ever played 8 games in LF in the minors. 3 were at A+. 5 were at A-. At AA Schwarber never played LF. Played 26 games in LF at A+ in 2014, 8 at A, and 2 at A- and then another 9 at AAA this year.
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So looks like NY called Oaklands bluff by dealing for Garcia. Supposedly read something yesterday that said Oakland may just not deal him but seems hard to pull back from that after all this. Should be interesting.
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Neither is Caratini.
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It seems what he concentrated on in the offseason was outfield play, and then leading off, and that stunted his growth too.
I really dont think anyone realizes what its like catching a guy like Jake with all that movement and then getting a bat in your hand and just realizing what is coming from pure repetition.
Last yea rHammels was ready to choose Kyle as his catcher, and if he did not blow out his knee with Dirtbag Fowler running into left field to catch a ball that was Kyles all the way in the 5th fucking game of the season, he would have had his shot and shown he could handle one guy, get Contrares his day off and get another outfielder in that game to play.
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Sox just traded Cabrera to Royals for 2 minor league pitchers..
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Funny thing though..
If he didn't get hurt and played the whole season, and did just that as catcher...
We probably dont see Contreras and who knows how the 2016 season unfolds with 157 games of totally different scenarios going on..
So, let not be too hard on Fowler [emoji6]
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Off subject
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/mariners-designate-d-j-peterson-for-assignment.html
So I'm wondering: Even swap for Brett Anderson. Then use him at Iowa to provide depth if they trade Candy?
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/mariners-designate-d-j-peterson-for-assignment.html
So I'm wondering: Even swap for Brett Anderson. Then use him at Iowa to provide depth if they trade Candy?
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You'd have to cut someone off the cubs 40 man to do that.