Trade Deadline Talk

[Raskolnikov]

He wasn't at any point adjusting to the "Speed of the game" that's a nonsensical way to interpret him.

The only thing I didn't like of seeing Dano play his game though in Rckford or here was he was TOO willing to throw his body around. As in he reminds me of Brouwer in many ways. Decent at finishing & smart enough to bring a 2way defensive effort but takes way too many hits after the guy passed away the puck just to "finish the check" and lay some punishment because you know humans can't withstand that many hits. Then like Brouwer, Dano didn't have the speed to keep on pace after taking a hit like that so he hits himself out of position.

I get he wants to show he can be a good all around game player with effort but he does too much of it for it to work on an NHL level.

don't talk to me with insults please.

How would you interpret the comment I was reacting to, them reporting the organization was disappointed with his ability to play at Hawks game speed?

Conditioning, or speed of game issues? That's the only two ways that make sense to me. That wasn't my opinion, I thought he was fiesty and those hits were him trying to prove himself to Hossa and Q.

 

[HawkWriter]

Initial thought is that it is a good amount to give up for what is most likely a rental. If Ladd signs on somehow for a cap friendly deal, then it turns into one hell of a deal. Blackhawks go far in the playoffs this year then it also turns into a great deal.

I will happily take a veteran over a prospect (or draft pick) any day of the week.

 

[MassHavoc]

With Winnipeg keeping 36 percent of his salary or whatever, how much room does it leave them with to make another move for defense.

 

[Diehardfan]

I think they see the window just starting to close a bit on this group after a 6 year run. They got a chance to win another Cup right now and they're going for it.

 

[DMelt36]

With Winnipeg keeping 36 percent of his salary or whatever, how much room does it leave them with to make another move for defense.

From the General Fanager page, it looks like they'll have $1.4 million on deadline day to work with. Doesn't seem like much. But if Bowman pulls a miracle and moves Scuderi or Bickell, they'll have a ton more to work with.

I think they see the window just starting to close a bit on this group after a 6 year run. They got a chance to win another Cup right now and they're going for it.

I think the window stays open through the rest of this decade if Teuvo proves to be a suitable replacement for Hossa at RW in the Top 6. That's still a question mark for sure, though.

Either way, we're probably on the back end of this run (which saddens me to type) and any season where the Hawks look to be a viable Cup winner, I've got no problem trading some future prospects for present glory.

 

[winos5]

Because he's bald... if he cheated and used that whatever hair system Edzo uses he might of had a shot.

I find that to be offensive and discriminatory.... (scratches his bald head)

 

[Diehardfan]

From the General Fanager page, it looks like they'll have $1.4 million on deadline day to work with. Doesn't seem like much. But if Bowman pulls a miracle and moves Scuderi or Bickell, they'll have a ton more to work with.



I think the window stays open through the rest of this decade if Teuvo proves to be a suitable replacement for Hossa at RW in the Top 6. That's still a question mark for sure, though.

Either way, we're probably on the back end of this run (which saddens me to type) and any season where the Hawks look to be a viable Cup winner, I've got no problem trading some future prospects for present glory.

Just looking at GeneralFanager...you know, if Bowman can somehow get Bickell to Toronto that they may be able to sign Ladd. Of course, other guys would also have to get the ax like Panik, Rozy, Mashinter etc. but it looks feasible. It's that damn albatross of Bickell's contract that is such a killer.

 

[Tater]

All hail Stan?

 

[MassHavoc]

From the General Fanager page, it looks like they'll have $1.4 million on deadline day to work with. Doesn't seem like much. But if Bowman pulls a miracle and moves Scuderi or Bickell, they'll have a ton more to work with.



I think the window stays open through the rest of this decade if Teuvo proves to be a suitable replacement for Hossa at RW in the Top 6. That's still a question mark for sure, though.

Either way, we're probably on the back end of this run (which saddens me to type) and any season where the Hawks look to be a viable Cup winner, I've got no problem trading some future prospects for present glory.

Thanks this is what I was afraid of, I mean it's enough but not enough to do anything real without sending another piece away or dumping one of the bad contracts. To think... so much hinges on Torona's disfuction and willingness to take on bad contracts right now haha. but what else do we have to offer them now that our high draft picks are all gone. I'm not worried about that because we already have a log jam of talent that's going to need to be paid, promoted or shipped, but not having them to use in other trades is going to quickly become a problem. I can't wait for stan to ship our 2023 first round pick to someone. I'm really really scared at what signing Panarin is going to do to the payroll and cap of this team. I mean he's russian so he has to screw the hawks eventually somehow right?

 

[MassHavoc]

All hail Stan?

All Dale Stan.

 

[HawkWriter]

Have to also remember that Kruger has not been placed on LTIR. The Blackhawks can do that at anytime they please and it will be retro-active, which means that the cap amount accrued while Kruger was on IR will then be credited back to the Blackhawks. That would open up some more cap space.

Edit: According to General Fanager he has not been placed on LTIR. I could have missed it if he was at some point this season after initially not being placed on LTIR after his injury.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Have to also remember that Kruger has not been placed on LTIR. The Blackhawks can do that at anytime they please and it will be retro-active, which means that the cap amount accrued while Kruger was on IR will then be credited back to the Blackhawks. That would open up some more cap space.

Edit: According to General Fanager he has not been placed on LTIR. I could have missed it if he was at some point this season after initially not being placed on LTIR after his injury.

Why wouldn't they put him on LTIR? We briefly discussed our shock he wasn't before, is it so he can come back in the regular season? Perhaps his slightly above minimum contract is not weighted enough to deter the best case for player, having a few weeks to play himself back?

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

I think they see the window just starting to close a bit on this group after a 6 year run. They got a chance to win another Cup right now and they're going for it.

Any time you are legitimate contender - you always go for it. Being a life long Chicago fan, I understand how precious these opportunities are. We have no idea when an opportunity like this will come around again.

Adding such a tough, versatile two way player in Andrew Ladd is a major coup. Yes, we gave up Dano - but I would not be surprised if he didn't turn into anything. Giving up the 1st round pick does sting a little -- but when our Front Office brings in guys like the Bread Man on low salary deals, the Big Red Machine keeps rollin'.

For as long as we have this core still playing at a high level (Towes, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, Niklas, Hossa, Panarin, Anisimov) you absolutely go for it every time you have a legitimate chance. We can't waste a single opportunity with this group.

You put Ladd on the 1st line to complete a nasty top six -- once again we're going to be really tough to beat. To beat us a team has to be incredibly talented and mentally strong. Good luck dethroning us, NHL!

 

[Raskolnikov]

I think they see the window just starting to close a bit on this group after a 6 year run. They got a chance to win another Cup right now and they're going for it.

why is it closing? We are locked and loaded for 4 more years at least. We have the type of competitors that will never be an easy out. I agree we are seizing opportunity, but with the pipeline of defenseman we are not closed for business at all.

There may come a time soon when our fourth line is garbage, and the forwards will have to do what the blue line did last year with 4 men, with 9 forwards in playoffs or some crazy shit.

That still looks to be 1-2 years away. TT taking a step into top 6 next year is important. Hossa hanging on 1 more year as top 6 is important.

I guess I see what you mean. Its Dicey after this year. They better move Bickell but I'm afraid its going to cost a high pick or a defenseman.

 

[HawkWriter]

Via Bob McKenzie's twitter a few moments ago

CHI's interest in VAN D Dan Hamhuis has cooled considerably. At THIS moment, CHI focusing more on lower-level depth options on blueline.

 

[RacerX]

With Winnipeg keeping 36 percent of his salary or whatever, how much room does it leave them with to make another move for defense.

With enough room to trade for and sign Dan Hamhuis as our #4 D-man. Expect to hear the announcement tomorrow (I hope).

Edit: did not see McKenzie's tweet, D'Oh!!!

 

[Raskolnikov]

http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1354662/andrew-ladd-says-hopes-return-re-sign-blackhawks

Ladd would like to re-sign with Hawks.

 

[ClydeLee]

Of course he'll say it but sure his asking price would have to change significantly. It's said he wanted a 7 year 6mil per deal from Winnipeg

 

[Raskolnikov]

Of course he'll say it but sure his asking price would have to change significantly. It's said he wanted a 7 year 6mil per deal from Winnipeg

Move Bickell. Trade Shaw. 6,500,000.

Cap hell forever, Bread Man and TT concerns unless Hossa relief. Hossa could cover Bread, TT traded for some of our picks back.

 

[MassHavoc]

7 year deal for a 30 year old? Who does he think he is Hossa?