Video Game Thread

[supraman]

Here's the problem with Elder Scrolls Online, how are you going to make it different from every single MMORPG out there. The MMO scene is the hardest genre to be successful in. so many go to the free to play model and there is a reason why, the game isn't good enough to pay for monthly.

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah I've read nothing good about Skyrim online. Everyone is saying it's basically just WOW with Morrowind laided on top. Couple cool minor features like being able to elect an emperor from the players, but everyone is disappointed. Even the lead guy said that they were mimicking WOW turn based style for the battle gameplay.

 

[supraman]

Yeah I've read nothing good about Skyrim online. Everyone is saying it's basically just WOW with Morrowind laided on top. Couple cool minor features like being able to elect an emperor from the players, but everyone is disappointed. Even the lead guy said that they were mimicking WOW turn based style for the battle gameplay.

There's nothing wrong with emulating WoW, it is the best MMO around (SWTOR might rival it though) but most that try to emulate WoW miss something important that WoW does. I'm going to guess polish, WoW is a highly polished game as per usual in Blizz games. Sure WoW has had its stumbles but overall WoW just does it right.



Now sure in my last post I said about being different from all the MMOs and in this one I said it is okay to emulate WoW. Here's the thing STO, Warhammer Online, LOTRO, DCU they lacked that extra bit that made them great and they are all essentially carbon copies of all the other MMOs out there.



Elder Scrolls has to do something special to stand out. Players that are emperors sounds neat but what powers are they going to have politically, how are they going to be "rulers" instead of just a title.



Hell I wish they would do a Star Trek or Star Wars MMO that is about capital ships. You get a guild/clan whatever and they are the crew of the ship. The guild leader is captain and that's what he does, he captain's the ship, another guy is weapons and that's what he does, etc I think that would be cool

 

[MassHavoc]

Spoken like a true WoW nerd... congrats, and yeah their is everything wrong with WoW, it's a game inherently flawed when you have prisons in China using inmates to farm gold and characters. Every MMO is the same for the most part right now you have that right, but Skyrim already had an immense world and canon in place to really blow the MMO out of the water. With room to expand to the previous games. All they had to do was actually put a little work into it to figure out how to make everything better instead of just copying everyone else and hoping the name alone brings in the money. THey could have created a game that reinvented the Genre or make WoW Skyrim. They choose to suck. The dumb thing is, that it doesn't have to come out even remotely close to now. People waited what 5 years for Skyrim and it was a huge sucess. Why doesn't they just make elder scrolls 6 a MMO and create a single player version off of that? Real simple. People would eat that shit up. You know how many people complain about WoW MMOs but still play them because there is nothing else? It's why I'm excited about Dust 514. You want to see a bit of a twist on the MMO, go check that shit out coming to PSN. http://www.dust514.com/en/home/

 

[supraman]

Spoken like a true WoW nerd... congrats, and yeah their is everything wrong with WoW, it's a game inherently flawed when you have prisons in China using inmates to farm gold and characters. Every MMO is the same for the most part right now you have that right, but Skyrim already had an immense world and canon in place to really blow the MMO out of the water. With room to expand to the previous games. All they had to do was actually put a little work into it to figure out how to make everything better instead of just copying everyone else and hoping the name alone brings in the money. THey could have created a game that reinvented the Genre or make WoW Skyrim. They choose to suck. The dumb thing is, that it doesn't have to come out even remotely close to now. People waited what 5 years for Skyrim and it was a huge sucess. Why doesn't they just make elder scrolls 6 a MMO and create a single player version off of that? Real simple. People would eat that shit up. You know how many people complain about WoW MMOs but still play them because there is nothing else? It's why I'm excited about Dust 514. You want to see a bit of a twist on the MMO, go check that shit out coming to PSN. http://www.dust514.com/en/home/

How is that blizzard's fault? You can buy currency for all the MMOs.

 

[Bringmepie]

Spoken like a true WoW nerd... congrats, and yeah their is everything wrong with WoW, it's a game inherently flawed when you have prisons in China using inmates to farm gold and characters. Every MMO is the same for the most part right now you have that right, but Skyrim already had an immense world and canon in place to really blow the MMO out of the water. With room to expand to the previous games. All they had to do was actually put a little work into it to figure out how to make everything better instead of just copying everyone else and hoping the name alone brings in the money. THey could have created a game that reinvented the Genre or make WoW Skyrim. They choose to suck. The dumb thing is, that it doesn't have to come out even remotely close to now. People waited what 5 years for Skyrim and it was a huge sucess. Why doesn't they just make elder scrolls 6 a MMO and create a single player version off of that? Real simple. People would eat that shit up. You know how many people complain about WoW MMOs but still play them because there is nothing else? It's why I'm excited about Dust 514. You want to see a bit of a twist on the MMO, go check that shit out coming to PSN. http://www.dust514.com/en/home/

How is that blizzard's fault? You can buy currency for all the MMOs.

Also, how come Mass is so familiar with the goings on inside of Chinese prisons?

 

[MassHavoc]

Because I read.... How is it Blizzards fault that their game basically comes down to repetitive tasks to excel which can be abused by people to make money in an economy created separate of the game but as a result of?

 

[supraman]

Because I read.... How is it Blizzards fault that their game basically comes down to repetitive tasks to excel which can be abused by people to make money in an economy created separate of the game but as a result of?

So all MMOs are to blame?



I get it you don't like Wow but to slam Blizz for an MMO problem that existed before WoW is kinda funny

 

[MassHavoc]

Where did people die and china farm prisoners before WoW? There was never this large scale of an external economy based on any MMO before. The game isn't even a game anymore it's basically just a set of psychological exercises that brainwash people into thinking their having fun while not actually doing anything.

 

[Ymono37]

Where did people die and china farm prisoners before WoW? There was never this large scale of an external economy based on any MMO before. The game isn't even a game anymore it's basically just a set of psychological exercises that brainwash people into thinking their having fun while not actually doing anything.

I thought that was Zynga's MO

 

[~rabid platypus~]

WoW looks boring to me. I have never even attempted to play it. What pisses me off the most about WoW is these stupid teenagers are starting to think that is all Renaissance and shit and wear WoW costumes to Renaissance Fairs. GTFO of here assclowns.

 

[supraman]

Where did people die and china farm prisoners before WoW? There was never this large scale of an external economy based on any MMO before. The game isn't even a game anymore it's basically just a set of psychological exercises that brainwash people into thinking their having fun while not actually doing anything.

Remember Everquest's nickname...Evercrack. WoW has the biggest problems because it is the biggest MMO. Here's a google link to stories about Everquest players. I can't vet the stories here at work due to them being blocked but needless to say, Everquest (the biggest during its heyday) had similar issues.



https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=seb&ie=UTF-8&ion=1&safe=active#hl=en&safe=active&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=stories%20of%20evercrack&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=909331469ac07cad&ix=seb&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1111&bih=909

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah and all WoW is now is a series of repetitive tasks to get to micro transactions. haha. I'm old school man, all my MMOs were text based. It's all of these MMO these days that are the same exact purpose.

 

[supraman]

Yeah and all WoW is now is a series of repetitive tasks to get to micro transactions. haha. I'm old school man, all my MMOs were text based. It's all of these MMO these days that are the same exact purpose.

I've played MUDs they are the same thing just no shiny graphics

 

[MassHavoc]

In the grand scheme of things yeah they are similar in purpose, but the are very very different cause they force you to interact in very different ways. The mechanics are completely different because it's not open world.

 

[supraman]

In the grand scheme of things yeah they are similar in purpose, but the are very very different cause they force you to interact in very different ways. The mechanics are completely different because it's not open world.

Anyway, ESO I just don't see it standing out. I say F2P in six months or less

 

[MassHavoc]

Anyway, ESO I just don't see it standing out. I say F2P in six months or less

Are we sure it's not coming out free to play? I didn't read that part,

 

[supraman]

Are we sure it's not coming out free to play? I didn't read that part,

Most dont and when they don't succeed they go to F2P to stay alive. it is the cover story for the new issue of Game Informer so I'll read it and maybe find out

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah, I know that's the model that's why I was curious. With the bad press it's been getting and the fact that it's already basically admitted it's a clone of the other F2P games I was just curious if they'd even bother with the step. Also, i assume this is going to be PC only so I'm just not going to care unless someone wants to come setup a killer gaming setup for me... but I can't even get my phone jailbroken. I wish someone would do that for me as it's being a pain in the ass.



On a side note Ymono if you're in here, Dead Island is only 27.99 right now, have you played it enough yet to tell me I should pull the trigger then we can blow some shit up?

 

[~rabid platypus~]

Dead Island is freaking awesome. I absolutely love that game. It may have it's flaws, but they are quickly overlooked for how fun the game is. I would definitely recommend getting it.