Youth Sports Coaching

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Running bases taught me the run-down.

 

[The Hawk]

I like the idea that 2nd graders "are not really ready to be taught the sport", but once they are in 3rd grade the focus is on winning. Talk about setting kids up for failure. It sounds terrible, but in The Hawk's defense its not really all that out of step with what I have witnessed in youth sports.

“The Hawk, coach of the Ithaca Warriors,was given a lifetime suspension for striking one of his players. . . . ”

Blow me, asshole. I never said anything about kids in 3rd grade being taught that the focus should be on winning. YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR.

 

[FirstTimer]

Blow me, asshole. I never said anything about kids in 3rd grade being taught that the focus should be on winning. YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR.

Most kids in 3rd grade are 10 years old by the time baseball season starts(spring of their grade year).

Go have some cream of wheat and simmer down.

 

[The Hawk]

One, any decent coach would intrinsically do this. Two, the fact that 'win-at-all-cost' youth coaches would routinely have their best pitcher throw 140 pitch games is the very genesis of the rule which you now detest. I recommend that you read the book "The Arm" by Jeff Passan. You might learn something from it.

You are just ridiculous. A good coach knows what limits to put on a 11-12 year old kid pitcher. Keeping track of innings played for each kid , innings pitched, pitches in a game for 13 kids is not the part of a game that is enjoyable to me. Truthfully, I had more fun in practices than the stringency of the "rules" employed for making sure that little Irving got his three innings of play and one at bat. That was where the kids actually be coached and make progress as a baseball player.

 

[The Hawk]

See we never had this problem.... teams were small enough that you generally had like 90% of the team playing defense with just 2-3 sitting out and often we had kids wanting an inning off lol so the coaches had to force someone out into RF every inning. And batting is batting.... have the order and you batted however much you batted, not much choice in it.

Did you have to keep track of individual innings played, innings pitched. Pitches per pitcher in a given game. Its been awhile since I coached Little league so maybe they've changed the rules or different cities or state organizations have their own local rules?

 

[Ares]

Did you have to keep track of individual innings played, innings pitched. Pitches per pitcher in a given game. Its been awhile since I coached Little league so maybe they've changed the rules or different cities or state organizations have their own local rules?

I was the kid playing.... and this was like 20 years ago.... so no, not back when I played.

 

[The Hawk]

The Hawk hated having to fill out a 'batting order'. He would rather have his best hitter bat every time. Thats not coaching, thats like filling out a time sheet.

What a fucking asshole statement from you. Having thirteen kids in a 7 inning or less game(time limits) each get three innings of defensive play and at least one at bat is not easy while you are trying to field a decent team in each inning of play. And then carrying over to the next game a starting line-up which includes a player or players who may have not gotten their at bat or three innings of defensive play in the previous game. All while having a little league "executive" who has the power to forfeit games or punish a coach who fails to properly "manage" the participation of little Ignotz.

By the way, you are really making a real example of how little that you know about coaching youth sports but more-over how trite you really are.

 

[Ares]

You are just ridiculous. A good coach knows what limits to put on a 11-12 year old kid pitcher. Keeping track of innings played for each kid , innings pitched, pitches in a game for 13 kids is not the part of a game that is enjoyable to me. Truthfully, I had more fun in practices than the stringency of the "rules" employed for making sure that little Irving got his three innings of play and one at bat. That was where the kids actually be coached and make progress as a baseball player.

Little Irving can go **** himself.... I mean he is named Irving....

Sorry i lost my temper

 

[The Hawk]

2nd grade=babysitting
3rd grade=JUST WIN BABY

2nd grader ---- 7 years old

5th grader ---- 10 years old

Next?

 

[The Hawk]

See I just don't understand the stuff in bold. You say you're all for the kids playing, but you don't want to keep track of how much they are playing? My 11-12 coach taught us all the basics - hammered it into us is more like it - but we all got to play at least three innings a game, hit once a game, and we only lost 3 games over the course of two seasons. All of this can be done.

And there is no way you shouldn't be concerned with the amount of pitches a kid has thrown.

I said that it was a pain in the ass with the innings played rules because that isn't baseball to me. And I mean it that practices were more fun that coaching in a game because of the bullshit rules applied in little league. Hey, if you think that time-keeping is fun, have at it. I coached my kids because they asked me to and I had the time to do it. But it was a pain in the ass outside of the game itself.

 

[The Hawk]

The Hawk is just an angry 75 year old man.

Nope. I am angry at the LIES that Rory spits out and the insults leveled at me. I was participating at a discussion about COACHING youth sports and instead got hammered with lies and insults by this guy. **** him and his insults. And to make it worse, he mocked my eye problems through my life. What the **** is that all about?

 

[FirstTimer]

2nd grader ---- 7 years old

5th grader ---- 10 years old

Next?

I've already shown that to be wrong.....You're almost 80. Relax.

 

[FirstTimer]

Nope

Yes. You are around 75 years old.

 

[FirstTimer]

i said that it was a pain in the ass with the innings played rules because that isn't baseball to me. And i mean it that practices were more fun that coaching in a game because of the bullshit rules applied in little league. Hey, if you think that time-keeping is fun, have at it. I coached my kids because they asked me to and i had the time to do it. But it was a pain in the ass outside of the game itself.

back in my day!

 

[The Hawk]

I've already shown that to be wrong.....You're almost 80. Relax.

kindergarten 5 years old. 1st grade 6 years old. 2nd grade 7 years old 3rd grade 8 years old. senior little league 10 years old at the earliest, typically 11-12 year olds.

But the point of it was some people's false statement about that I said that in the 3rd grade winning is most important which I never did. It was a LIE.

You girls sure like to pile on on minutia and let any legitimate conversation go fly away.

 

[FirstTimer]

kindergarten 5 years old. 1st grade 6 years old. 2nd grade 7 years old 3rd grade 8 years old. senior little league 10 years old at the earliest, typically 11-12 year olds

Yeah, gramps...You're wrong about that. I already showed how.

Isn't it almost your dinner time?

 

[The Hawk]

No, old man. I have a mid-fall birthday(pretty standard). I started second grade when I was 8. I started first grade at 7. I started Kindergarten at 6. REALLY standard. When I "graduated" 2nd grade I was 9. I started 3rd grade as a 9 year old and "graduated" 3rd grade as a 10 year old. This is pretty typical.

So for basketball or baseball in 2nd and 3rd grade in your mind I(and millions of other kids) would have gone from:

2nd grade=babysitting
3rd grade=JUST WIN BABY

So you were 15 as an incoming freshman in high school? Thats pretty unusual. My kids were 12-13 when they entered. In some sports, parents actually hold their elementary kids back a year so they can be more physically mature to compete in sports. We never did as parents.

 

[The Hawk]

Most kids in 3rd grade are 10 years old by the time baseball season starts(spring of their grade year).

Go have some cream of wheat and simmer down.

Not the smart ones. GO eat your pablum and try not to shit your diaper for a change. Besides, what relevance does that have to what little league coaches are supposed to do? I did not like the innings played bullshit record keeping. Is that a big deal to you?

 

[The Hawk]

In case anyone cares, the IHSA has put in place a pitch count rule for the first time this year. Not exactly sure what they cap at, but I believe it's weekly and not per game or anything like that. My buddy, who is the HC for a very successful program loves it. Not sure if it's because of the health of the player, or because he has 7 pitchers with at least D-2 talent.

Different leagues have different rules. And high school rules are different from travel ball rules.

 

[Urblock]

Nice thread gone sideways. :yep: