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Why not actually provide an argument to counter my points? I realize that would require waymore effort than a deweybut perhaps we might actual get somewhere instead of hearing the same tired statements without any evidence to support it.
Same goes for you and your hard-on for Ramirez.
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Simple! 25 HR 90+ RBI every year. How do you replace that?
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I didn't realize I posted one line responses with an
as a response to an argument. My mistake.That and you continue to ignore what I actual wrote which is that Ramirez is the best option available at the time. I am still waiting for that reasonable better option...
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I didn't realize I posted one line responses with an
That and you continue to ignore what I actual wrote which is that Ramirez is the best option available at the time. I am still waiting for that reasonable better option...
You're repeating the same shtick. Ramirez is good in the season, sucks when it counts. Simple as that. He's not worth $16M. Period.
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And I've shown again and again how that isn't really true. You say the same thing again and again. And I give example of how postseason production doesn't reflect the talent level of the player. I am not syaing that we should be happy that Ramirez sucked in the postseason in 2007 and 2008, but the idea that has any bearing on how he would produce in future postseasons is not supported by any evidence.
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He was good in the 2003 post season.. So it just depends. Plus the Cubs as a whole team sucked in 07-08.
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So he rough time in 2, 3 game series. thats the way to judge a player :lmao:
A-Ram has been the best 3B prolly in Cubs history. I will do some stat checking but im postitive this guy put up better numbers then Santo
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And conversely we have no evidence that Ramirez's postseason production will increase.
The only thing we have is the past.
Ramirez puts up great numbers, the only thing this season they came in May and later when the season was out of hand already.
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Ok. That's what you believe and that's fine. I believe otherwise. Doesn't make either of us wrong until he shows that he can do something other than flop in the postseason. Agree to disagree on Ramirez.
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Right we don't know what will happen in the postseason. So judging a player based on what happened in past postseasons is silly because he is as likely to perform at his career numbers in the postseason as he is to have another clunker.
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Ron Santo Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
Santo Stats^ had more years with Cubs then A-Ram
Aramis Ramirez Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
A-ram 25 HR + 90 RBI + 9 out of last 10 years. Only year he didnt was when he hurt in 2009!
Santo Stats^ had more years with Cubs then A-Ram
Aramis Ramirez Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
A-ram 25 HR + 90 RBI + 9 out of last 10 years. Only year he didnt was when he hurt in 2009!
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Ron Santo says hello.
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A-Ram needs help to keep it close around May. A-ram has always been known to be slow starter. I want to see you hit HR when its 50 degrees or lower and wind blowing in every damn day.
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I understand that you don't like Ramirez, but I will call out a flawed argument when I see one. I've shown how great players have had poor postseasons. I've shown how players have had poor postseason and than great postseasons. Hitting in the postseason is not a skill. Over time guys numbers will approach their career norms and there is no evidence offered by anyone here to suggest otherwise.
If you want to get rid of Ramirez because you don't like his attitude or his production in past postseasons, that is fine. But don't try to sell it like this improves the team right now.
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Fisch isn't a baseball player. :lmao:
So he's a slow starter and a slow finisher too, huh?
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Santo had 14 years while A-Ram only 8. A-ram has put up basically same type of numbers as Santo in about 3 less years in MLB
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I'd like to think his averages in the postseason would come closer to 290 25 and 90, but I don't know that for sure. Sample size and short series prevent that from happening.
If the Cubs want pretty regular season numbers, they'll resign Ramirez, if they want to spend money in other areas, they won't.
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Santo was consistent throughout his entire career, played defense too.