Derrick Rose: Youngest MVP Ever!

[Anytime23]

Whatever you say your highness. I'll get a clue when you get your head out of your ass. Rose for MVP, go lick LeChokes nut sack.

 

[Glide2keva]

When have I talked down to you? What are u a bunch of bitches on here? When I came here people were slamming each other...I took no part in it because I didn't think it was respectful. I even asked one guy to calm it down....

When you say something I don't agree with , I question it, when you say something stupid, I tell you. Sue me. When you write something that I don't understand, I can't be phony...I just say "I don't understand, can you explain?" What is wrong with that? I just happened to think you saying a thread is blasphemous for superstitious reasons was laughable. And I compared that mode of thinking to Cubs fans thinking. And it is in my opinion.

I think what people have a problem with is you saying face "FACTS".

If it's your opinion, then don't present it as fact.

At least that's what I got from it.

 

[houheffna]

Whatever you say your highness. I'll get a clue when you get your head out of your ass. Rose for MVP, go lick LeChokes nut sack.

Wow.......

 

[Anytime23]

I think what people have a problem with is you saying face "FACTS".

If it's your opinion, then don't present it as fact.

At least that's what I got from it.

Someone gets it. Thank you!

 

[NextLevelChicago]

Just bought one of those shirts + Kerry Wood one but patience my friend when its official we can throw a party but the goal is a NBA Championship and a NBA Finals MVP thats what Derrick will tell you "I just wanna win!"

 

[houheffna]

I think what people have a problem with is you saying face "FACTS".

If it's your opinion, then don't present it as fact.

At least that's what I got from it.

What you should have gotten from it is that Lebron being the "King" and being better than anybody else by a sizable margin is what I presented as fact. And the "fact" (defined as "Something believed to be true or real") that I presented was that Lebron deserved the MVP.

I have said numerous times, since the Bulls last played the Heat that Rose had overtaken Lebron. But some people are so busy kissing Rose's ass that they hold grudges...based on a statement made over a month ago...its a bit silly.

 

[Crystallas]

When have I talked down to you? What are u a bunch of bitches on here? When I came here people were slamming each other...I took no part in it because I didn't think it was respectful. I even asked one guy to calm it down....

When you say something I don't agree with , I question it, when you say something stupid, I tell you. Sue me. When you write something that I don't understand, I can't be phony...I just say "I don't understand, can you explain?" What is wrong with that? I just happened to think you saying a thread is blasphemous for superstitious reasons was laughable. And I compared that mode of thinking to Cubs fans thinking. And it is in my opinion.

So let me get this straight, because I admit I have some superstitions, that is laughable to you? But you call that bitching and you don't even know when you talk down to people?
:shrug:

 

[Crystallas]

What you should have gotten from it is that Lebron being the "King" and being better than anybody else by a sizable margin is what I presented as fact. And the "fact" (defined as "Something believed to be true or real") that I presented was that Lebron deserved the MVP.

I have said numerous times, since the Bulls last played the Heat that Rose had overtaken Lebron. But some people are so busy kissing Rose's ass that they hold grudges...based on a statement made over a month ago...its a bit silly.

A fact isn't believed to be true of real. Perception becomes reality, as a saying but not a fact. Your perception is all over the place trying to defend petty arguments. This is hilarious. One moment you defend your LeBron over Rose support, then you resort to saying you have changed your mind, then you change your mind again... all in a matter of one thread? If you have changed your mind, stop defending your obsolete view. Live in the now.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Using Houf's definition of a fact:

Derrick Rose > LeBron James
Brian Scalabrine > LeBron James

I'm sure some idiot out there believes it... so why not just call it out for the fact that it is?

 

[Glide2keva]

What I think is laughable is that lebron is even in the MVP conversation. He has no claim to it. Yes I said he has NO CLAIM to it.

And this whole "lebron is better than anyone else" is a joke to me. lebron is the most physically gifted athlete ever to play basketball outside of Wilt and Jordan. Having said that, I don't think he has any real basketball skills. His game has been the same since what, his junior year in high school? He hasn't added anything to it. He learned how shoot FT's better and hoists enough 3's to make a decent amount, but beyond that, what has he really improved on?

Nothing. His game far, far, far from perfect, yet people treat him like he is a god. There's a reason why guys like Jordan and Kobe, etc. play well into their 30's. They have actual basketball skills and when their physical primes were done, they were smart enough to add things along the way to preserve their place among the top players in the league.

I don't think lebron puts in that kind of work.

lebron could play ANY sport and be good at it, because he has all the physical tools, but he doesn't have the work ethic IMO anyway, to work on glaring weaknesses in his game. He has the talent, but hard work beats talent when talent refuses to work hard.

I don't hate lebron (well I sorta do), but I hate his hype more. He is not a wnner and doesn't know how to because never had to work for anything, everything was handed to him on a platter.

Now Derrick Rose?

He busts his ass to get better and it shows on the court and the results are bared in the W/L column. lebron may out-talent Rose, but Rose out works lebron and this has resulted in the heat looking up at the Bulls while Miami was on it's championship cruise.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

What I think is laughable is that lebron is even in the MVP conversation. He has no claim to it. Yes I said he has NO CLAIM to it.

And this whole "lebron is better than anyone else" is a joke to me. lebron is the most physically gifted athlete ever to play basketball outside of Wilt and Jordan. Having said that, I don't think he has any real basketball skills. His game has been the same since what, his junior year in high school? He hasn't added anything to it. He learned how shoot FT's better and hoists enough 3's to make a decent amount, but beyond that, what has he really improved on?

Nothing. His game far, far, far from perfect, yet people treat him like he is a god. There's a reason why guys like Jordan and Kobe, etc. play well into their 30's. They have actual basketball skills and when their physical primes were done, they were smart enough to add things along the way to preserve their place among the top players in the league.

I don't think lebron puts in that kind of work.

lebron could play ANY sport and be good at it, because he has all the physical tools, but he doesn't have the work ethic IMO anyway, to work on glaring weaknesses in his game. He has the talent, but hard work beats talent when talent refuses to work hard.

I don't hate lebron (well I sorta do), but I hate his hype more. He is not a wnner and doesn't know how to because never had to work for anything, everything was handed to him on a platter.

Now Derrick Rose?

He busts his ass to get better and it shows on the court and the results are bared in the W/L column. lebron may out-talent Rose, but Rose out works lebron and this has resulted in the heat looking up at the Bulls while Miami was on it's championship cruise.

Excellent, excellent post. So much truth here.

 

[Glide2keva]

Excellent, excellent post. So much truth here.

I try man, it'll be dismissed as folly, but this is how I see it and I've been watching the NBA for more than 30 years.

Seen too many talented players come in only to fizzle out. lebron to his credit hasn't fizzled, but his weaknesses are being exposed. Such as his complete and utter lack of clutch play. His overall lack of leadership and folding in big game situations.

Miami could be such a dangerous team if lebron wasn't the main focus of the team. Think about it, you let lebron showboat and do his thing in the first quarter and part of the second, you let Bosh do whatever it is that he does second through third and let Wade (the actual best player on the team) close out because he has proven that he knows how to win on the biggest of stages.

But since they rely too much on lebron, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[houheffna]

Using Houf's definition of a fact:

Derrick Rose > LeBron James
Brian Scalabrine > LeBron James

I'm sure some idiot out there believes it... so why not just call it out for the fact that it is?

fact - definition of fact by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

 

[houheffna]

Excellent, excellent post. So much truth here.

Really? What exactly are the truths/facts that you saw in that argument? I saw none honestly...

 

[pinkizdead]

LBJ is the best player in the league, can we all agree on this? at least this?

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

Wow, you're full of it Rami.

 

[Glide2keva]

Really? What exactly are the truths/facts that you saw in that argument? I saw none honestly...

Truth: lebron is the most physically gifted the NBA has ever seen outside of Wilt $ Jordan.

Truth: lebron is lazy and hasn't adding anything to his game in about 9 years (counting high school)

Truth: lebron relies too heavily on being the best athlete and not necessarily the best player.

Truth: lebron has very limited actual basketball skills. How anyone can deny this is beyond me.

Truth: once his physical skills wear out, he won't have anything to rely on.

Truth: people treat him like he's won 5 titles already and it's only a formality that he will win more.

I don't, I thought I posted a whole assload of reality in my post. Since I'm not drinking the lbj kool-aid. I can say it.

 

[Glide2keva]

LBJ is the best player in the league, can we all agree on this? at least this?

No, we can't.

 

[pinkizdead]

May be hou has a point about objectivity.

 

[houheffna]

Truth: lebron is the most physically gifted the NBA has ever seen outside of Wilt $ Jordan.

Truth: lebron is lazy and hasn't adding anything to his game in about 9 years (counting high school)

Truth: lebron relies too heavily on being the best athlete and not necessarily the best player.

Truth: lebron has very limited actual basketball skills. How anyone can deny this is beyond me.

Truth: once his physical skills wear out, he won't have anything to rely on.

Truth: people treat him like he's won 5 titles already and it's only a formality that he will win more.

I don't, I thought I posted a whole assload of reality in my post. Since I'm not drinking the lbj kool-aid. I can say it.

You are a hypocrite...so are Rami and Anytime 23 for agreeing with this rant. How can any of you criticize me for speaking what I see as truth when THIS delusional stuff is considered truth? How is that? Its because its Pro Rose and Anti Lebron!!! Which is exactly my point...my putting my statements out there as fact is problematic...but this is acceptable? "Lebron refuses to work hard" (Rami put this in bold type as if this is some "amen" moment) is truth? Based on what? Who?

All of those are delusions...based on your dislike for the man. Those are not even objective opinions...let alone truths. What "people" treat him like he's won 5 titles? And you watched the NBA for 30 years and Lebron has limited basketball skills? You ain't watching the NBA if you believe that...