GarPax, you failed in 2010 and now you failed in 2014 and it's time for you to go!

[2323]

Anyone paying attention in 2010 understands why Boozer got the money he did. We can either be ignorant to the reality of how the NBA works or we can be reasonable and attempt something resembling solid NBA discussion. Not sure JJ or xplosive are capable of the latter but im hoping we get there one day.

GTFO. No they don't get a pass for the Boozer signing. Having financial flexibility is better than overpaying for a second or third tier player like Boozer. That's reality. Furthermore, it's the job of GarPax to know what the Bulls had on their roster. Boozer was brought in after Tajs rookie season. It was in about the 2nd season Boozer was a Bull that Taj emerged as a more effective player on a more consistent basis. It was GarPaxs job to know what they had in Taj vs what Boozer was.

But no. There was no unassailable reasoning behind the Boozer contract contrary to what you seem to want to suggest.

 

[Anytime23]

Im honestly flabbergasted by the dumb

 

[didshereallysaythat]

GTFO. No they don't get a pass for the Boozer signing. Having financial flexibility is better than overpaying for a second or third tier player like Boozer. That's reality. Furthermore, it's the job of GarPax to know what the Bulls had on their roster. Boozer was brought in after Tajs rookie season. It was in about the 2nd season Boozer was a Bull that Taj emerged as a more effective player on a more consistent basis. It was GarPaxs job to know what they had in Taj vs what Boozer was.

But no. There was no unassailable reasoning behind the Boozer contract contrary to what you seem to want to suggest.

So if McD turns into a perennial scorer at the 2-3, it would have been smart for Gar not to overpay for Anthony since it's his job to know his players right?

 

[2323]

So if McD turns into a perennial scorer at the 2-3, it would have been smart for Gar not to overpay for Anthony since it's his job to know his players right?

That's right. But if they feel McDermoitt will be this, why are they going after Carmelo?

 

[JimJohnson]

Im honestly flabbergasted by the dumb

So stop posting.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Im honestly flabbergasted by the dumb

And I thought people were salty in 2010...

 

[2323]

Im honestly flabbergasted by the dumb

I guess admitting to being dumb and flabbergasted is a bridge too far for you.

 

[Anytime23]

And I thought people were salty in 2010...

Its unreal. At least in 2010 people waited for the results. People here have been bitching a whole week.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

That's right. But if they feel McDermoitt will be this, why are they going after Carmelo?

Why did they go after Boozer in 2010?

Boozer pre 2010 known for scoring and bad defense
Anthony now known for scoring and bad defense

Your point would only be relevant if your thought was to sit back and not get anyone and hope to have a boat load of cap to get Durant in 2 years when he will be a free agent if we needed him. But it's not. You are mad that we didn't get Anthony! You don't see the irony?

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Let's be honest, you guys that are bitching about Boozer signing four years ago(which, at that point, he was coming off a 19 PPG 11 RPG 56% FG season) would have probably been even more angry if GarPax hadn't signed anyone. You say you wouldn't but that's bullshit,especially because the Bulls supposedly had a lot going for them that offseason. Truth was they didn't because Lebron, Wade, and Bosh had other plans, but it seemed like the Bulls could get something done. If they completely flop, it looks pretty fucking bad. And like I said, Boozer wasn't an awful signing.

Truth is, the Bulls were better off getting Boozer than they were getting Amare or Joe Johnson. Christ, Joe Johnson got his name thrown around. Dude's a nightmare now, he's got a huge contract and he's averaging like 15 PPG. Red flag.

 

[Crystallas]

Its unreal. At least in 2010 people waited for the results. People here have been bitching a whole week.

Most of these people haven't said anything until the off-season when hopes were high to add another star.

aka: The Bandwagon fan. Since they don't really care, melting down now is the only way to leave. Otherwise, I don't understand the logic. Bitch at other Bulls fans for your frustrations, because that totally makes sense.

 

[Anytime23]

Spot on, Code

 

[Anytime23]

Most of these people haven't said anything until the off-season when hopes were high to add another star.

aka: The Bandwagon fan. Since they don't really care, melting down now is the only way to leave. Otherwise, I don't understand the logic. Bitch at other Bulls fans for your frustrations, because that totally makes sense.

good. I'll stick around and just wait for them to fade away

 

[2323]

Why did they go after Boozer in 2010?

Boozer pre 2010 known for scoring and bad defense
Anthony now known for scoring and bad defense

Your point would only be relevant if your thought was to sit back and not get anyone and hope to have a boat load of cap to get Durant in 2 years when he will be a free agent if we needed him. But it's not. You are mad that we didn't get Anthony! You don't see the irony?

I can't believe you're making an argument based on the idea that Boozer and Anthony are the same player. If they were the same player, it would be ironic but they're not. First of all, since Boozer plays closer to the basket, as a PF, his defenses lapses typically hurt more than those of a perimeter player. Second of all, Anthony is a much better scorer. Unlike Boozer, Anthony can score anywhere on the floor. And the rules favor wings. So it's a big concession if your wings aren't good at scoring.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Let's be honest, you guys that are bitching about Boozer signing four years ago(which, at that point, he was coming off a 19 PPG 11 RPG 56% FG season) would have probably been even more angry if GarPax hadn't signed anyone. You say you wouldn't but that's bullshit,especially because the Bulls supposedly had a lot going for them that offseason. Truth was they didn't because Lebron, Wade, and Bosh had other plans, but it seemed like the Bulls could get something done. If they completely flop, it looks pretty fucking bad. And like I said, Boozer wasn't an awful signing.

Truth is, the Bulls were better off getting Boozer than they were getting Amare or Joe Johnson. Christ, Joe Johnson got his name thrown around. Dude's a nightmare now, he's got a huge contract and he's averaging like 15 PPG. Red flag.

Dude if we got no one in 2010...city would've rioted. Spot on

 

[didshereallysaythat]

I can't believe you're making an argument based on the idea that Boozer and Anthony are the same player. If they were the same player, it would be ironic but they're not. First of all, since Boozer plays closer to the basket, as a PF, his defenses lapses typically hurt more than those of a perimeter player. Second of all, Anthony is a much better scorer. Unlike Boozer, Anthony can score anywhere on the floor. And the rules favor wings. So it's a big concession if your wings aren't good at scoring.

That's not the ironic part. What is ironic is you are blaming Gar for not having any cap room when you want him to have cap room to break the bank for Anthony... which would lead to the same thing, no cap room!

If Anthony signed with the Bulls and it didn't work and Durant was a free agent and we didn't have enough money to sign him, you would say the same thing I promise you.

 

[vinson555]

GTFO. This isn't little league. There are no trophies for "trying". In case you weren't sure, "trying" isn't the issue. The issue is that they're not good enough.

this comment is a fail on so many levels a they didn't even have the money to give him the max and if that's what he wanted there was nothing that could be done. Unless you want to give up almost the core of the team to get a guy with questionable defense... this isn't like with Lebron as he isn't as good.

 

[2323]

Let's be honest, you guys that are bitching about Boozer signing four years ago(which, at that point, he was coming off a 19 PPG 11 RPG 56% FG season) would have probably been even more angry if GarPax hadn't signed anyone. You say you wouldn't but that's bullshit,especially because the Bulls supposedly had a lot going for them that offseason. Truth was they didn't because Lebron, Wade, and Bosh had other plans, but it seemed like the Bulls could get something done. If they completely flop, it looks pretty fucking bad. And like I said, Boozer wasn't an awful signing.

Truth is, the Bulls were better off getting Boozer than they were getting Amare or Joe Johnson. Christ, Joe Johnson got his name thrown around. Dude's a nightmare now, he's got a huge contract and he's averaging like 15 PPG. Red flag.

There's almost no truth in what you're saying. In 2010 Jazz fans were glad to see Boozer go. That's because they knew he's a paper tiger.

And no, an argument against signing Boozer doesn't default to being in favor of signing Johnson or Stoudemire. So you should really get off that falsely constructed issue. Several posts ago, I said financial flexibility is more important than overpaying for next-tier players.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

In the NBA, spend the money you got and try and improve the team when you have the chance. Get the players you can get. Hope that your unknown young men develop and you have a problem of too much depth. But prepare for the worst incase they do not.

 

[2323]

this comment is a fail on so many levels a they didn't even have the money to give him the max and if that's what he wanted there was nothing that could be done. Unless you want to give up almost the core of the team to get a guy with questionable defense... this isn't like with Lebron as he isn't as good.

No. What's a failure is your reading comprehension. This rinse and repeat response has been addressed several times.