Javon Wims incident.

[msadows]

There's more to this than I initially thought. I saw the attempted eye poke on Miller, but I didn't see Wims' mouthpiece get ripped off until later. Wims is signed thru next year. I don't think the Bears will cut him, but he should be benched a few games (I'm sure a suspension is coming anyway.) And Wims is 26 years old now - he's not 22. A veteran should know better than to get baited into a scuffle like that.

The morning after, I don't think Wims deserves more than his league suspension and to be in the dog house for a little bit like Miller was last year. Maybe give Ridley are real chance. I'm not really big on "making examples" outta guys unless it's a constant problem.

I don't think he's getting cut either.

Seems like his teammates defended him for it. It was a stupid play, no doubt, but it's not like its going to cause a locker room disruption.

 

[CAP BOSO]

Cutting Wims does nothing. Just helps bears fans feel better

Um it holds people accountable and sends a message that that type of childishness won't be tolerated.

 

[Nail Polish]

I understand why Wims did it, but he still shouldn't have.. There are ways to address the fouls committed by the Saints player that don't include getting tossed from the game and throwing your entire offense into a funk.

This goes back to coaching discipline..Something Nagy lacks

 

[UK_STALEY]

Can the Bears at least try and trade Akiem Hicks before they cut him?

 

[Bearly]

Um it holds people accountable and sends a message that that type of childishness won't be tolerated.

On a 1st offense? It would show a lack of understanding and could lose others on the team. There's plenty of accountability available without releasing him.

Wims is asked to and does play the position in a physical manner. It's part of why he's out there and this is the 1st real incident. He lost it bad but it's 1st for him and he likely learns from it with a loss of play and pay. That's enough unless he continues those actions. Will be interesting because you know that the next time he gets on the field, the DBs will goad him.

 

[msadows]

On a 1st offense? It would show a lack of understanding and could lose others on the team. There's plenty of accountability available without releasing him.

Wims is asked to and does play the position in a physical manner. It's part of why he's out there and this is the 1st real incident. He lost it bad but it's 1st for him and he likely learns from it with a loss of play and pay. That's enough unless he continues those actions. Will be interesting because you know that the next time he gets on the field, the DBs will goad him.

This.

He's also the only WR on this team that knows how to block. They can't afford to cut him. Suspend him? Sure. Thats how you send a message.

Cutting him could just piss off players in that WR circle. Miller and Arob are already chirping and unsettled.

 

[PrideisBears]

Um it holds people accountable and sends a message that that type of childishness won't be tolerated.

Lol no it doesn't. Only people need to be held accountable is the coaching staff

 

[UK_STALEY]

On a 1st offense? It would show a lack of understanding and could lose others on the team. There's plenty of accountability available without releasing him.

Wims is asked to and does play the position in a physical manner. It's part of why he's out there and this is the 1st real incident. He lost it bad but it's 1st for him and he likely learns from it with a loss of play and pay. That's enough unless he continues those actions. Will be interesting because you know that the next time he gets on the field, the DBs will goad him.

This!! I’ve read lots in this thread about cutting Wims immediately as the penalty and his actions were detrimental to the team and sending a message of accountability! Is this because he is a fringe player or would the same punishment be deemed necessary for any member of the roster?

 

[UK_STALEY]

Um it holds people accountable and sends a message that that type of childishness won't be tolerated.

It’s a dangerous precedent to set

 

[legendxofxlink]

Wims is on the field for over a quarter of the offensive plays and he's got 5 catches on the year. He just pictured Nagy's face under that Saints helmet and let those paws fly.

 

[bears26]

I don't think he's getting cut either.

Seems like his teammates defended him for it. It was a stupid play, no doubt, but it's not like its going to cause a locker room disruption.

He is going to be suspended by the NFL, probably for at least a couple of games. Nagy has to send a message to the team by cutting him. He will look weak if he doesn't.

 

[UK_STALEY]

He is going to be suspended by the NFL, probably for at least a couple of games. Nagy has to send a message to the team by cutting him. He will look weak if he doesn't.

It would be a pretty hypocritical message

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Can the Bears at least try and trade Akiem Hicks before they cut him?

LOL What?

 

[Bearly]

He is going to be suspended by the NFL, probably for at least a couple of games. Nagy has to send a message to the team by cutting him. He will look weak if he doesn't.

not. It's a great way to lose a struggling team. Wims is friends with those guys and was standing up for them. he was wrong in his actions but it was ONE TIME and it's not like he intentionally injured someone during a play. I've seen that happen with less ridicule and demand for consequence.

 

[msadows]

He is going to be suspended by the NFL, probably for at least a couple of games. Nagy has to send a message to the team by cutting him. He will look weak if he doesn't.

not. It's a great way to lose a struggling team. Wims is friends with those guys and was standing up for them. he was wrong in his actions but it was ONE TIME and it's not like he intentionally injured someone during a play. I've seen that happen with less ridicule and demand for consequence.

Read the above post.

Not really sure what you accomplish by cutting him other than pissing off AntMill/Arob who are already pissed.

Wims is far from the reason we lost the game. How about Foles doesn't throw an idiotic backpeddling floater INT the following play after that slap.

 

[UK_STALEY]

LOL What?

Well the Bears must cut Wims for his stupid decision that was detrimental to the team so Hicks will be cut too right? The most penalised player in the league with multiple stupid personal fouls that are detrimental to the entire team, there was one against the Rams on monday

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Well the Bears must cut Wims for his stupid decision that was detrimental to the team so Hicks will be cut too right? The most penalised player in the league with multiple stupid personal fouls that are detrimental to the entire team, there was one against the Rams on monday

The next time Hicks sucker punches a defensive back will be the first time. Are you high?

 

[RubberBanMan]

Javon Wims- WR/Amateur Boxer; Chicago Bears; 2018

If you go to his highschool’s wiki page under notable alumni this is what it says for Wims lmao

 

[abegibronlives]

Did he come off the sideline to do this?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323042880659857411

Troy Aikman: “Uh, that’s just not smart football.”


It isn't football at all.

I'm not defending the actions of the Saint's player, but that was not the right way to handle it. You just basically admitted that the guy got into your head.

And, obviously, it hurt the Bears...

 

[UK_STALEY]

The next time Hicks sucker punches a defensive back will be the first time. Are you high?

The next time he makes a stupid fucking decision that penalises his team mates won’t be though will it?!