TGDT: 1/5 Stars @ Blackhawks 7:30PM CSN

[MassHavoc]

He's playing really well on the bench for 500k.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Again for 500k per year playing on the 3rd line I'm not sure what you expect. Although YOU are known as a SKILLE hater so it's no surprise.



For what he's making and where he's playing, he's most certainly holding his end of the bargain up at this point. Without question. Now if he was making 3 mil playing on the top line, maybe you'd have a leg to stand on.



FYI he was scratched last week because he was part of a trade that fell through.



How's Crawford working out for you?

Haha.... never a hater. Just a realist.



I love eating my Crawford Crow!!!!

 

[R K]

Is it a matter of his draft position going to his head?



He seems like he works hard, but maybe it's just a matter of all show, no go?



He reminds me of Ken Yaremchuk. Wheels and nothing else.

give him more than one season first. If that was the case Brouwer would have been gone as well.

 

[Kerfuffle]

This fucking argument again....everyone just get over it that he was 7th overall. Turris was what 3rd (I'm guessing) overall and is playing in the minors. Either Datysuk or Zetterberg was taken in the 7th round that means they are supposed to suck, god damn them for not following the script.



Buff was a 7th rounder that was overweight and last I heard (about a month ago) led Dmen in score and was in Norris talks, **** him for not following the script.



So what Skille isn't a rockstar. Also he probably would have played last year but oh yeah we were fucking STACKED.

But the fact that he was the 7th overall pick means the organization has a lot more patience with him than they would if he were a 7th rounder. Let's face it - you expect your 1st rounders to be very good players. A 7th round pick you're hoping to get lucky on. No way Skille is still on this team for the 4th year in a row if he was picked as a 7th rounder.

 

[puckjim]

yes. But he took a 500k pay cut as well. He was part of the offer fiasco.

Yeah, I forgot. Swift move by Stan to get Minny to eat that bad paper.

 

[R K]

But the fact that he was the 7th overall pick means the organization has a lot more patience with him than they would if he were a 7th rounder. Let's face it - you expect your 1st rounders to be very good players. A 7th round pick you're hoping to get lucky on. No way Skille is still on this team for the 4th year in a row if he was picked as a 7th rounder.

Not really. Maybe the first 3-5 players. After that it's often a crap shoot.



If you said that comment to Scotty Bowman it would be the first and last conversation you'd ever have. Most great players if not in the top 5 are ALL OVER the many rounds the draft has.

 

[R K]

Haha.... never a hater. Just a realist.



I love eating my Crawford Crow!!!!

realist my ass!

 

[Kerfuffle]

Not really. Maybe the first 3-5 players. After that it's often a crap shoot.



If you said that comment to Scotty Bowman it would be the first and last conversation you'd ever have. Most great players if not in the top 5 are ALL OVER the many rounds the draft has.

That's after the fact and looking backwards. A diamond in the rough will always pop out of a later round - if you're lucky. But when you make a 1st round draft selection there is an EXPECTATION that the player will be very good and produce for your club.

 

[R K]

That's after the fact and looking backwards. A diamond in the rough will always pop out of a later round - if you're lucky. But when you make a 1st round draft selection there is an EXPECTATION that the player will be very good and produce for your club.

Again you are incorrect. Sometime if you have the chance ask an NHL GM how wrong you are. There are times where they are more excited about the later round picks than the first.



But since you think you know what you are talking about continue on.



Top 3-5 players maybe. There are a TON of 1st round picks that never see the NHL. Espcially after the 5th pick on.

 

[IceHogsFan]

realist my ass!

Go look at Mr. Right Wing 1st Round Draft Pick stats.



As of today, 100 shots with 6 goals.



Jack is only up because he is a $500K contract. Not for skill and not for the

consideration of improving his game. I believe four years in the AHL with nothing

really to show for it and his stats with the parent club are proving that he is

only a $500K skater. I do not see him ever living up to his supposed potential.



I will eat crow for Jack as well and hope I am wrong but a realist I am. I have

seen him for four and a half years and my opinion has not changed.

 

[puckjim]

That's after the fact and looking backwards. A diamond in the rough will always pop out of a later round - if you're lucky. But when you make a 1st round draft selection there is an EXPECTATION that the player will be very good and produce for your club.

What you are saying is correct. Skille has not and probably will not live up to his draft position.



Using hindsight, I'm sure the Hawks would love to do that draft over again.



I don't know where he was rated at the time or if he was a surprise pick at #7.



Others here may know.



But generally 3rd/4th line players are not taken in the top ten.



But it's by no means a guarantee of success, either. Ben Eager was a first round pick that didn't work out as expected.



So was Cameron Barker.

 

[supraman]

That's after the fact and looking backwards. A diamond in the rough will always pop out of a later round - if you're lucky. But when you make a 1st round draft selection there is an EXPECTATION that the player will be very good and produce for your club.

change expectation to hope and you got it right.



Actually I would show more patience with a late round over an early round.



Because i feel like rambling. I remember watching last years WJCs and I felt so bad for the Kazakhstan goalie. He wasn't bad but the team in front of him was horrible, every team just pissed all over the poor kid. If I was a GM I would have thrown the kid my last pick of the draft if he was interested, see if he developed into something better and if not a 10th round pick gets wasted...who cares it is 10th round pick

 

[MassHavoc]

Go look at Mr. Right Wing 1st Round Draft Pick stats.



As of today, 100 shots with 6 goals.



Jack is only up because he is a $500K contract. Not for skill and not for the

consideration of improving his game. I believe four years in the AHL with nothing

really to show for it and his stats with the parent club are proving that he is

only a $500K skater. I do not see him ever living up to his supposed potential.



I will eat crow for Jack as well and hope I am wrong but a realist I am. I have

seen him for four and a half years and my opinion has not changed.

If this continues, I doubt he is with the team after this year.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Wasn't Jack drafted after UW winning the championship? I would assume that was part of the reason

for his high draft pick.



Where is Go Bucky? He would know.

 

[R K]

Go look at Mr. Right Wing 1st Round Draft Pick stats.



As of today, 100 shots with 6 goals.



Jack is only up because he is a $500K contract. Not for skill and not for the

consideration of improving his game. I believe four years in the AHL with nothing

really to show for it and his stats with the parent club are proving that he is

only a $500K skater. I do not see him ever living up to his supposed potential.



I will eat crow for Jack as well and hope I am wrong but a realist I am. I have

seen him for four and a half years and my opinion has not changed.

Really? How much did Fraser make last year? How much did Eager make last year? How much did Burrish make last year? Now look at their numbers and get back to me.





HATER!

 

[R K]

If this continues, I doubt he is with the team after this year.

He'll be traded before years end is my guess.

 

[R K]

Wasn't Jack drafted after UW winning the championship? I would assume that was part of the reason

for his high draft pick.



Where is Go Bucky? He would know.

It was a weak draft.

 

[Kerfuffle]

Go look at Mr. Right Wing 1st Round Draft Pick stats.



As of today, 100 shots with 6 goals.



Jack is only up because he is a $500K contract. Not for skill and not for the

consideration of improving his game. I believe four years in the AHL with nothing

really to show for it and his stats with the parent club are proving that he is

only a $500K skater. I do not see him ever living up to his supposed potential.



I will eat crow for Jack as well and hope I am wrong but a realist I am. I have

seen him for four and a half years and my opinion has not changed.

 

[R K]

That's comforting.

 

[R K]

again ask him what Brouwer did in the AHL then compare those stats to the NHL.



Good post alright!



Kane has 96 shots and 11 goals. 6.3 mil.



Kopecky has 79 shots and 3 goals.....



Funny how stats work. I suggest some do more research before posting.



LOL