What does your draft board look like after FA?

[vabearsfan15]

I never seen Jeanty play, just now watched a highlight reel. He is lightning fast but in those highlights he has gaping wide holes to run through. The thing that strikes me is how tiny the guy is, is this what we really want or need? I need some convincing they should use the 10th pick in the draft on someone so small.

I understand what you mean. Alot of people don't realize how much Jeanty's success has to do with the scheme and conference he played in. The league Boise State plays in, the Mountain West, most of the league is near the bottom of all college football in rushing defense. On top of that Boise had a dominant rushing scheme and good OLine play. Just look at the stats of Jeanty's backups. Though with much less carries, they too averaged 6-7 yards a carry.

That's not to say Jeanty isn't a great runningback. He is that also. But what makes him great is his ability to bounce off tackles. He is very difficult to wrap up and has a low center of gravity and great contact balance. He draws comparisons to Barry Sanders in that regard.

For me, the risk comes with how he is able to shed tackles from bigger and stronger DLineman. Personally,, I don't think he has the greatest vision or ability to run inside the tackles. I think he will run into far more players and could possibly be inconsistent down to down. But with that said, all it takes is for him bouncing off one or two tackles to make a long run. So to me his floor is being the type of guy that gets 2 yards every carry and out of nowhere bounces off a tackle and goes 70 yards for a TD. But his ceiling is that no he continues to be difficult to wrap up, DBs fear having to make a tackle on him, and that he goes on to be as good as Barry Sanders.

 

[Xplosive]

I don’t need to look at snap counts to understand how important the edge position is at the NFL level. Also, I guess football players never get injured. Who knew!

So you spend the #10 pick on another DE just in case the guys that you are paying big money get injured?

Come on man. They have other needs, they just invested in the position. Let it go. They can find good developmental DEs in the later rounds.

 

[Les Grossman]

OT is a concern too. Braxton will be in his last year and CHI hasn’t seen super committal on him. Would be nice if a new LT takes over he has some experience and isn’t a rookie

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Go see how many snaps elite DE's play. #10 is a premium pick. You dont draft #10 to sit behind two highly paid starters and hope he can get 450 snaps.

A guy like Maxx Crosby regularly plays 1000 snaps on his own.

Maxx Crosby has only done it twice. C Jordon only once. M Garrett once.

Not that it matters….. but I am pedantic I’ve been told.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

I understand what you mean. Alot of people don't realize how much Jeanty's success has to do with the scheme and conference he played in. The league Boise State plays in, the Mountain West, most of the league is near the bottom of all college football in rushing defense. On top of that Boise had a dominant rushing scheme and good OLine play. Just look at the stats of Jeanty's backups. Though with much less carries, they too averaged 6-7 yards a carry.

That's not to say Jeanty isn't a great runningback. He is that also. But what makes him great is his ability to bounce off tackles. He is very difficult to wrap up and has a low center of gravity and great contact balance. He draws comparisons to Barry Sanders in that regard.

For me, the risk comes with how he is able to shed tackles from bigger and stronger DLineman. Personally,, I don't think he has the greatest vision or ability to run inside the tackles. I think he will run into far more players and could possibly be inconsistent down to down. But with that said, all it takes is for him bouncing off one or two tackles to make a long run. So to me his floor is being the type of guy that gets 2 yards every carry and out of nowhere bounces off a tackle and goes 70 yards for a TD. But his ceiling is that no he continues to be difficult to wrap up, DBs fear having to make a tackle on him, and that he goes on to be as good as Barry Sanders.

Fair analysis imo. He will not put up his college numbers in the NFL. No chance. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be great. A lot of people think that it was all because of weak competition and that is impossible to argue. Maybe it was. Me personally I think he’s gunna be really good in the NFL. Not like Barkley or anything though and thats the requirement to go at 10.

 

[msadows]

OT is a concern too. Braxton will be in his last year and CHI hasn’t seen super committal on him. Would be nice if a new LT takes over he has some experience and isn’t a rookie

That guy is kiran amendingdong!

 

[napo55]

Whoever they pick at `10 should be a great player, a difference maker, not a backup or "potential" type. If Jeanty is that type of player, pick him and find your D and O reserve linemen in the second and third rounds.

High first round picks are hard to come by and shouldn't be wasted.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

The way I see it is Poles has done more than I expected this offseason already. I’m excited to see what direction he goes at 10 in the draft (when is the draft by the way?) Will he continue to go OL? I’m good with that. Will he go DL? I’m cool with that too. Will he go skill position? Will he trade back? I’m kinda to the point where I’m good no matter what now. Take the best player to help the team.
Stay tuned fukkers. It’s gunna be fun.

 

[TL1961]

Let me help you out...

2024 Bears Defensive ends played 2,351 snaps... a starter will play roughly 700 a piece...

That leaves 951 snaps to divide between the remaining DE's on the team. They will keep at minimum 4 on the roster.

Booker will be one, and he deserves at least 3-400 snaps in his second season....

You don't waste the #10 pick on a player that barely plays 1/4 of the time for the next few seasons.

Are you seriously suggesting 10 is too high to pick someone at the second most impactful position in football?

 

[Xplosive]

Maxx Crosby has only done it twice. C Jordon only once. M Garrett once.

Not that it matters….. but I am pedantic I’ve been told.

Twice over 1000, Twice over 900, in 6 years. Garrett over 800 basically every year...

I gave a conservative number of 700 per starter which is fair. Odeyingbo played over that amount last season, Montez also usually over 700 when healthy.

 

[HearshotKDS]

Have you watched Stewart? If all you do is look at the stats I get the skepticism but if you actually watch the guy it’s pretty impressive

I watched the NFL FilmRoom highlight (and lowlight) but not every game or anything. His physical gifts jump off the screen but he has really unrefined technique which is both a concern for a 3rd year guy but also is something that gets abused at the next level if he doesn’t fix it when he’s going against NFL talent. I don’t think his bullrush will consistently work in the NFL if he doesn’t learn how to keep OL hands off his chest, but you can see guys who will be selling insurance after ncaa getting to his chest and locking him out. What happens when it’s Penei Sewell and not the Mississippi State RT?

Maybe some team thinks they can teach that but 3 years is a lot of time to look as raw as he does. I get the draw of the player but he’s a gamble I don’t want the Bears to take, or at least not at 10.

Nic Scourton looks like a future NFL journeyman to me and I’d hate the pick outside of day 3 even though I know he’ll go earlier than that.

 

[Xplosive]

Are you seriously suggesting 10 is too high to pick someone at the second most impactful position in football?

The box your brain sits in is hilarious. Try harder not to constrain each debate into these absurd extreme scenarios.

 

[TL1961]

The box your brain sits in is hilarious. Try harder not to constrain each debate into these absurd extreme scenarios.

You literally just fucking made an argument that it would be wrong and wasteful to pick a DE at number 10.

 

[Xplosive]

You literally just fucking made an argument that it would be wrong and wasteful to pick a DE at number 10.

... there is some context you are leaving out

 

[Xplosive]

Are you forgetting the part about having another young DE that's making $25M AAV... AND the new 26yo DE you literally just acquired to pay $16M AAV...

Are the Bears locked and loaded at every other position so therefore it's ok to take the luxury of another DE at #10??

Is this CCS version of Punked?...

Ashton is that you??

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Twice over 1000, Twice over 900, in 6 years. Garrett over 800 basically every year...

I gave a conservative number of 700 per starter which is fair. Odeyingbo played over that amount last season, Montez also usually over 700 when healthy.

So not a 1,000.

 

[Les Grossman]

Twice over 1000, Twice over 900, in 6 years. Garrett over 800 basically every year...

I gave a conservative number of 700 per starter which is fair. Odeyingbo played over that amount last season, Montez also usually over 700 when healthy.

It’s probably not a linear amount of wear and tear though. The difference between 900 and 1000 could be quite a bit

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I watched the NFL FilmRoom highlight (and lowlight) but not every game or anything. His physical gifts jump off the screen but he has really unrefined technique which is both a concern for a 3rd year guy but also is something that gets abused at the next level if he doesn’t fix it when he’s going against NFL talent. I don’t think his bullrush will consistently work in the NFL if he doesn’t learn how to keep OL hands off his chest, but you can see guys who will be selling insurance after ncaa getting to his chest and locking him out. What happens when it’s Penei Sewell and not the Mississippi State RT?

Maybe some team thinks they can teach that but 3 years is a lot of time to look as raw as he does. I get the draw of the player but he’s a gamble I don’t want the Bears to take, or at least not at 10.

Nic Scourton looks like a future NFL journeyman to me and I’d hate the pick outside of day 3 even though I know he’ll go earlier than that.

Yeah it’s a risky pick. Some team is gonna think they can coach him up. All I know is he gives me the same feels I got watching Verse last year

 

[Xplosive]

It’s probably not a linear amount of wear and tear though. The difference between 900 and 1000 could be quite a bit

It's not about wear and tear, it's using the #10 pick on a player that will be a backup for a couple years on a team that has glaring holes at other positions.

The snap counts are just math and I know math is hard... but there are only so many snaps to go around.

 

[Les Grossman]

It's not about wear and tear, it's using the #10 pick on a player that will be a backup for a couple years on a team that has glaring holes at other positions.

The snap counts are just math and I know math is hard... but there are only so many snaps to go around.

Math isn’t hard. It was explained to you.